Re: Vote on Windows installer links

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:15 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 02:03 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 08 July 2009 22:52:53 Josh Berkus wrote:
> > > > For that matter, any opinions about whether to change the download
> > > > page or not need to be informed by the question of what resources we'd
> > > > lose if it's not hosted at EDB.com.  People need to know what they're
> > > > voting on, and right now they don't.  Heck, I don't, so I wouldn't
> > > > take a vote.
> > >
> > > All of this could clearly be solved if someone just took the EDB installer,
> > > remastered it without the offending logos, and hosted it on a *.postgresql.org
> > > server.
> >
> > That sounds very reasonable to me. Now that the feelings of many people
> > have been expressed this should be achievable.
> >
> > Surely we are not in a position where a sponsoring company will refuse
> > to make reasonable changes when requested by a significant number of
> > people?
>
> I have a better idea.  Simon why don't you create new multi-platform
> installers, from scratch, and contribute them to the community with no
> recognition to yourself or your company;  then EDB can reassign the
> three staff members they have working on the installers to something
> that more-directly generates revenue for EDB.
>
> Assuming that EDB will continue funding 3+ people to create community
> installers with no PR payback is unrealistic, similar to Josh Berkus's
> comment of wanting "the moon in a box".  (See my recent posting about PR
> payback.)

Are we really in a position where we are forced to accept advertising
from a company because they run what we consider to be a critical part
of the project? Is that the only alternative?

So you are confirming that EDB has said that it will pull the installers
if we remove the link?

I think there is likely to be a reasonable alternative, if we seek it.
If you do not wish to seek it personally, then we should arrange for
somebody else to enquire after the options and find a solution.

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