Re: 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*)
От | Mike Cox |
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Тема | Re: 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql (was: comp.databases.postgresql.*) |
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Msg-id | 31c5p3F38a41nU1@individual.net обсуждение исходный текст |
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Re: 3rd RFD: comp.databases.postgresql
(Jan Wieck <JanWieck@Yahoo.com>)
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Список | pgsql-general |
Jan Wieck wrote: > On 12/3/2004 3:32 PM, Woodchuck Bill wrote: > >> jd@commandprompt.com ("Joshua D. Drake") wrote in >> news:41B0C39E.9090804@commandprompt.com: >> >>> >>>> So the current state of affairs is that we have the gated, official >>>> pgsql.* newsgroups, and the comp.* stuff is not gated in either >>>> direction? >> >> Yes. >> >>>> If that's the case, there should be a weekly/monthly reminder posting >>>> on the comp.* side set up, pointing out that these are not official >>>> groups and that real PostgreSQL questions are better asked somewhere >>>> else, if the intention is to reach real developers and get real help. >>>> I don't want to see people wasting a lot of time or getting confused >>>> because they found the wrong newsgroups first. >> >> Why would the comp.* group be the wrong group? Just an additional >> resource. The proponent said that he would post weekly pointers about the >> pgsql.* hierarchy to the comp.* group, but expecting him to post >> something negative about the comp.* group is asking too much of him. This >> group is not meant to be a competing resource..it is just another >> channel, and another plug for the open-source community. Stop treating it >> like a bad thing. >> >> You are insulting non-developer advanced pgsql.* users that would be >> using the comp.* group by inferring that only the developers are capable >> of answering questions. Do the Oracle developers, or MSsql developers >> participate in the respective comp.* groups for their products? Most >> probably not. Are those newsgroups extremely useful resources for users >> of those products? Very much so. > > I didn't say that only developers are capable of that. > > Since the mailing list to comp.databases.postgresql.general gating was > stopped over a week ago, there has been zero communication on that > newsgroup. From what I understand, it is impossible to post to that newsgroup now. In google it says the groups are not archived anymore and the post function is disabled. I never got the comp.databases.postgresql.* groups from my newsprovider so I cannot guess if that is the case with other news providers. But I surmise that it is also true in their case. What I think has happened is that the gateway is sending all posts to that group to pgsql.*. >I guess, that currently all of the developers and advanced > users are either on the mailing list or using the pgsql.* groups. > > And since there are no forums at all where you have direct access to > Oracle or MSSql developers, this isn't exactly what I call a good > example. Would they still be that usefull if like in our case all > developers, experienced dba's and advanced users would be on oracle.* or > microsoft.* groups already? > > So how exactly do you think that big number of non-developer advanced > PostgreSQL users will populate the comp.* groups? I don't see them there > right now, and without them the comp.* groups are the wrong groups > because you will not get answers to questions there. Look at this poll. http://scripts.postgresql.org/survey.php?View=1&SurveyID=36
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