Re: Event Spam..???
От | Chander Ganesan |
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Тема | Re: Event Spam..??? |
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Msg-id | 4644C736.5030505@otg-nc.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: Event Spam..??? (Dave Page <dpage@postgresql.org>) |
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Re: Event Spam..???
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Dave Page wrote: <blockquote cite="mid4644BECC.20908@postgresql.org" type="cite"><pre wrap="">Chander Ganesan wrote: </pre><blockquotetype="cite"><pre wrap="">I see your point. However, perhaps there is some other mechanism or restriction that can be put in place to limit the likelihood of this (one course of one type per month, a limitation on annual courses listed, or a "per listing" fee charged to not-for-free companies)? Such restrictions would at least limit abuse to some extent.. Or perhaps limiting listed courses to states where companies are registered as corporations... Such information is freely available, and it could be required that companies provide a link to their articles of incorporation in the states where they provide training - easy to check without undue work on those that filter events... </pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""> Limiting the number of listings is not in our interests - we want to show how much PostgreSQL is being used. Perhaps more importantly, how *widely*. We'd want to list courses running in every state, even if they were all the same company.</pre></blockquote> However, corporate marketing is not a quantifiable metric as to usage. I'dargue that the number of courses offered has no bearing on how widely or how much PostgreSQL is being used.<br /><blockquotecite="mid4644BECC.20908@postgresql.org" type="cite"><pre wrap="">Charging would almost certainly cause us problemsgiven our financial status. I suspect we could 'solicit donations', but that would obviously not have the desired effect. </pre></blockquote> Charging (or requiring a sizable donation to get "front page" status) wouldprovide a commercial entity an incentive to offer genuine events. We already make fairly regular donations throughSPI (btw, I was told there would be a donors page at some point...any ideas as to when that might appear?), and Idoubt that any commercial organization that makes a profit from PG would be loathe to donate 50% of the "per-head cost"for 1 student or something along those lines for each event listed....especially when they expect that they'll run aclass with a lot more than a single student. <br /><blockquote cite="mid4644BECC.20908@postgresql.org" type="cite"><prewrap="">Limiting to the states in which companies are registered is a nonsense as well - what about a company in Japan? How do we check them? Or what about EnterpriseDB UK Ltd for example who cover the whole EMEA region - would they (== we in case you didn't realise I work for them) be restricted to listing courses in England because that's where we're registered?</pre></blockquote> Yep, it's not nearly a perfect solution...<br /><blockquote cite="mid4644BECC.20908@postgresql.org"type="cite"><pre wrap=""> Don't misunderstand - I'm not trying to dodge the issue. I just don't think there's a straightforward solution :-( </pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">If others (ourselves included) are forced to take the same action to be competitive then it results in a reduction in the usefulness of the tool. One could argue that removing it entirely to prevent abuse would be less disruptive than having PG related companies flounder due to the actions of a few "bad citizens". </pre></blockquote><pre wrap=""> Let's remember that there are no proven 'bad citizens'. Unless that should change, for you to 'take the same action' would mean scheduling more legitimate courses - which I'd welcome :-)</pre></blockquote> Understood. <br /><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">ChanderGanesan Open Technology Group, Inc. One Copley Parkway, Suite 210 Morrisville, NC 27560 Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999</pre><br /><blockquote cite="mid4644BECC.20908@postgresql.org" type="cite"><pre wrap=""> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"href="mailto:majordomo@postgresql.org">majordomo@postgresql.org</a> so that your messagecan get through to the mailing list cleanly </pre></blockquote>
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