Re: the future of pljava development
От | Marek Lewczuk |
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Тема | Re: the future of pljava development |
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Msg-id | 46558E1B.2090700@lewczuk.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: the future of pljava development (Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>) |
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Re: the future of pljava development
(Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>)
Re: the future of pljava development ("Andrej Ricnik-Bay" <andrej.groups@gmail.com>) |
Список | pgsql-general |
Magnus Hagander pisze: > Being a fan or not of the language really isn't the issue, and nobody is > *ignoring* the language and platform. We all know "the others" have it. > And we want it. But the core team (or more importantly in this case, the > people doing backend development, which is partially a different thing) > aren't *java programmers* (at least not good ones, AFAIK), so they > really can't do much there. This is one of the reasons we have the > pl/java project separately - to make it possible to have people focus on > what they know and are good at. I didn't wanted to say that all PostgreSQL core developers should start working on pljava - I just wanted to ask whether we can ask for help with C,JNI and PostgreSQL backend cause that is the problem. > > Oh, and both DB2 and SQLServer has .Net support for stored procedures, > and we don't have that at all - so you could make an equally strong > argument that the core people should focus on that. Which has even less > chance of happening :-) Good point, but from the other hand there are plenty of programing languages but Java is the most popular :-) (source: http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm). >> I would like to know your opinion about pljava and its future and maybe >> also there are people among PostgreSQL developers (core team or contrib >> team) that are able to help with the development. > > If you (or whomever picks up where the project is at now) have any > specific issues wrt the backend integration and such things, there are a > lot of people on the -hackers list that will be happy to help out. But > since most of us aren't Java people, you're probably going to have to > look elsewhere if you need help with the Java parts. There is no problem with Java parts but rather connecting Java with PostgreSQL backend which requires knowledge of C and JNI. > We did have one not too long ago. It showed that about 14% of our users > did, which puts it in fourth place, after perl, php and python. But not > far behind. See http://www.postgresql.org/community/survey.44 Count +1 for pljava, I didn't vote (unfortunately) :-( > So saying that it's one of the most important features is definitely > wrong. Saying it's important or very important is absolutely not wrong. You are right, it's very important and I hope that all of us agree with that statement (maybe I go too far saying "one of the most...") :-) Regards, Marek
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