On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 5:52 PM Jelte Fennema-Nio <me@jeltef.nl> wrote:
> It's still bumping the protocol version. I think this is a necessity
> with the current changeset, since ParameterSet now applies to plain
> GUCs too and. As I clarified in a previous email, this does **not**
> break old clients, since the server silently downgrades when an older
> protocol version is requested.
Could you explain why you think that the protocol version bump is necessary?
> > Second, I don't really like the idea of selectively turning GUCs into
> > protocol-managed parameters. I think there are a relatively small
> > number of things that we'd ever want to manage on a protocol level,
> > but this design would force us to make it work for any GUC whatsoever.
>
> It now limits the possible GUCs that can be changed to PGC_USERSET and
> PGC_SUSET. If desired, we could limit it even further by using an
> allowlist of reasonable GUCs or set a flag on GUCs that can be
> "upgraded" . Things that seem at least reasonable to me are "role",
> "session_authorization", "client_encoding".
I don't know whether that limit helps anything or not, and you haven't
really said why you imposed it. Personally, I think that the login
role should be changeable via a protocol message and make it just as
if we'd logged in using the selected role originally, except that a
further protocol message can change it again (when not in
transaction). SET ROLE and SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION would behave in
accordance with the idea that it was the originally selected role.
Then, a connected client can't distinguish between being directly
connected to the database in a session created for that role and being
connected to a pooler which has used this protocol message to create a
session that is effectively for that role. With your design, the
client can see behavioral differences between those cases.
I agree that client_encoding feels like a protocol parameter rather
than a GUC as we know them today. How to get there with reasonable
impact on backward compatibility, I'm not sure. I'm still afraid that
trying to allow this kind of nail-down for a broad range of GUCs (even
if not all) is going to be messy. But I'm also plenty willing to
listen to contrary opinions. I hear yours, but I wonder what others
think? Tom particularly.
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Robert Haas
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