Re: CoC [Final v2]

On 01/23/2016 04:00 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote:

On Jan 22, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:

This document provides community guidelines for a safe, respectful, productive, and collaborative place for any person who is willing to contribute to the PostgreSQL community. It applies to all "collaborative space", which is defined as community communications channels (such as mailing lists, IRC, submitted patches, commit comments, etc.).

We need to also cover abuse by members of the community made outside the community. Otherwise we’ll appear to give safe harbor to abusers.

The private lives of members are the private lives of members. Let whatever space they are in and the requirements of that space dictate the response to their behaviour.

* Participants will be tolerant of opposing views.

This statement can be used in defense of abusive behavior (“I was just expressing an opposing view!”).

Can you provide an example of said behaviour that does not also violate the below?

* Participants must ensure that their language and actions are free
of personal attacks and disparaging personal remarks.

* When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants
should always assume good intentions.

This statement can be used in defense of abusive behavior (“You should recognize the intention behind what I said was benign!”).

Yes it can and then when they are corrected, if they continue, the below kicks in.

* Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated.

Link to enforcement policy will of course be required.

Yes but as mentioned earlier, first comes the CoC, then comes the enforcement policy.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

Best,

David

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