Re: [PATCHES] Win32 Event log
От | Dave Page |
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Тема | Re: [PATCHES] Win32 Event log |
Дата | |
Msg-id | E7F85A1B5FF8D44C8A1AF6885BC9A0E41A77C2@ratbert.vale-housing.co.uk обсуждение исходный текст |
Список | pgsql-hackers-win32 |
Thanks Bruce - I think it's for the best ;-) /D > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us] > Sent: 18 August 2004 16:58 > To: Dave Page > Cc: Andrew Dunstan; pgsql-hackers-win32 > Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [PATCHES] Win32 Event log > > > OK, I have updated the release announcement to exclude mention of NT4: > > Win32 Native Server > > This is the first PostgreSQL release to natively run on > Microsoft > Windows as a server. It can run as a Windows service. > This release > supports NT-based Windows releases like Win2000, XP, > Win2003. Older > releases like Windows 95, 98, and ME are not supported > because these > operating systems do not have the infrastructure to > support PostgreSQL. > A separate installer project has been created to ease > installation on > Windows: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pginstaller. > > We use the word "like" and list supported OS's, so it isn't > implied to be an exclusive list. > > When we get to the official supported ports list, we can see if we get > NT4 tested and document any problems there. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > > Dave Page wrote: > > Everything is still as I stated below AFAIK. > > > > /D > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us] > > > Sent: 18 August 2004 04:27 > > > To: Dave Page > > > Cc: Andrew Dunstan; pgsql-hackers-win32 > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [PATCHES] Win32 Event log > > > > > > > > > OK, where are we now on the NT4 support issue? Do we > need to modify > > > the 8.0 release announcement? > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------- > > > > > > Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us] > > > > > Sent: 13 August 2004 03:59 > > > > > To: Dave Page > > > > > Cc: Andrew Dunstan; pgsql-hackers-win32 > > > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [PATCHES] Win32 Event log > > > > > > > > > > > (http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/10825_2239651_ > > > > > 3 > > > > > for > > > > > > further analyis). Therefore, attempts to create > > > tablespaces will > > > > > > probably cause a crash. > > > > > > > > > > Can't we fix such a _hypothetical_ crash when someone finally > > > > > reports it? > > > > > In fact I bet we aren't going to be able to prevent > folks from > > > > > running on NT4 anyway so we will have to fix it. > > > > > > > > On further examination of Andreas' patch, it doesn't use an > > > APIs that > > > > aren't in NT4 as far as I can see, instead it uses existing > > > functions > > > > (such as DeviceIoControl), but with control codes like > > > > FSCTL_SET_REPARSE_POINT which are *not* in NT. As far as I can > > > > tell without spending time I don't have on it, symlink creation > > > will fail > > > > gracefully and as long as the create tablespace code can > > > handle that, > > > > it should be pretty clean. > > > > > > > > > If the installer can't run on NT4 SP4, that is an > > > installer issue. > > > > > I don't see why we should label the base source code as > > > not working > > > > > on it. > > > > > > > > Because the vast majority of Windows users *will not* > compile from > > > > source, they will use the installer. If press releases go > > > out saying > > > > it supports NT4 and we do get a ton of downloads from > NT users, we > > > > will end up with a correspopnding flood of emails and bug > > > reports. End > > > > users will not see the difference between the source, and the > > > > precompiled binary, even if we do see them as separate projects. > > > > > > > > > If it doesn't have symlinks, fine, no tablespaces. I > > > will update the > > > > > release notes to mention the installer doesn't run on NT4. > > > > > > > > > > Basically, we can't turn the PostgreSQL ship on a dime. > > > If we come > > > > > out and say NT4 doesn't work, the someone else appears > > > and gets it > > > > > working, it is harder to communicate that. I don't > want to be > > > > > adding/removing > > > > > NT4 based on untested ideas. > > > > > > > > The installer issue is not untested - I got a bug report > > > about it this > > > > morning. The table spaces issue is, but as no-one here > > > seems to have > > > > NT4 we can't test it. We also cannot reasonably support > a platform > > > > that none of us have access to. > > > > > > > > By all means note that the base code will compile and > run without > > > > tablespaces on NT4, but please do not announce that it's an > > > official > > > > supported platform. > > > > > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > > > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > > > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > > > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, > > > Pennsylvania 19073 > > > > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, > Pennsylvania 19073 >
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