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Re: [ANNOUNCE] pgAdmin III v1.0.0 Released

От
Jean-Michel POURE
Дата:
Le Lundi 29 Septembre 2003 12:10, Dave Page a écrit :
> The OSX port is underway but is mainly being held up by problems with
> wxWindows as I understand it. We are in contact with the OSX developer
> for wxWindows and I believe things are moving along, but unfortunately I
> don't know much more than that.
>
> Jean-Michel, can you give Adam any more useful info?

Dear Adam Witney and friends,

pgAdmin3 is an internationalised product available in 28 languages. It is
based on the wxWindows multi-platform environment available for MS Windows,
GNU/Linux and MacOsX and other platforms. At the same time, pgAdmin3 is
designed to query and display Unicode data stored in PostgreSQL (which is
also Unicode compliant).

As far as I understood, the port problem relies on the fact that that MacOsX
is not natively and fully Unicode compliant.

Presently, there are five possible solutions/workarounds:

1) Compile pgAdmin3 in non-unicode mode. In which case, pgAdmin3 port would be
unable to display non-european languages and query PostgreSQL Unicode
databases.

2) Use the "iconv" library linked against wxWindows in order to bring a
Unicode abstraction layer to wxWindows. Julian, I had this idea in my sleep,
is this a workable solution?

3) Wait for MacOsX 10.3 which should be Unicode compliant. We already
discussed this opportunity, which does not fit our ideas because it would
require MacOsX users to upgrade.

4) Use donated proprietary compilers in order to compile pgAdmin3 under
MacOsX. My opinion is not to use proprietary software, but other members in
the team are not agains this idea. This needs to be dicussed.

5) Compile pgAdmin as a fink package (http://www.fink.org). Maybe too
complicated for MacOsX users.

Could we discuss these opportunities? My opinion would be to go for 2), 1) and
4) and 5) in order of preference. What is the opinion of other members and
contributors?

Cheers,
Jean-Michel


Re: [ANNOUNCE] pgAdmin III v1.0.0 Released

От
"Adam H. Pendleton"
Дата:
Jean-Michel POURE wrote:

>1) Compile pgAdmin3 in non-unicode mode. In which case, pgAdmin3 port would be
>unable to display non-european languages and query PostgreSQL Unicode
>databases.
>
>2) Use the "iconv" library linked against wxWindows in order to bring a
>Unicode abstraction layer to wxWindows. Julian, I had this idea in my sleep,
>is this a workable solution?
>
>3) Wait for MacOsX 10.3 which should be Unicode compliant. We already
>discussed this opportunity, which does not fit our ideas because it would
>require MacOsX users to upgrade.
>
>4) Use donated proprietary compilers in order to compile pgAdmin3 under
>MacOsX. My opinion is not to use proprietary software, but other members in
>the team are not agains this idea. This needs to be dicussed.
>
>5) Compile pgAdmin as a fink package (http://www.fink.org). Maybe too
>complicated for MacOsX users.
>
>Could we discuss these opportunities? My opinion would be to go for 2), 1) and
>4) and 5) in order of preference. What is the opinion of other members and
>contributors?
>
I like this order as well (with one caveat), although I think that #5 is
unnecessary.  Whatever method we use for compiling pgAdmin3,
distribution will almost certainly be done as in binary form, so there
will be no need to involve fink, which AIUI, is largely for compiling
ported packages for Mac OS X.

My caveat to the above order is that item #3, assuming we have no
problem with the compiler, should be #1, since it offers us the
oppurtunity to have a Unicode pgAdmin3 on Mac OS X.  If there are
philosophical problems with #3, then let's compile a non-unicode
version, at least to get something to beta test.  There's a pretty good
chance that we're going to have bugs in the Mac version, since the last
time I had pgAdmin3 running on the Mac, it crashed on startup.

As soon as we decide which direction we want to go, I can contribute
however much time is neccessary to get the port to work.

ahp


PgAdmin III on OSX (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] pgAdmin III v1.0.0 Released)

От
Adam Witney
Дата:
For the time being, I could live with 1), but I couldn't get it to configure
on my OSX laptop... It couldn't find my pgsql installation... Even though it
was looking in the right place!

does pgsql have to be compiled with ssl for pgadmin to work?

adam


> Le Lundi 29 Septembre 2003 12:10, Dave Page a écrit :
>> The OSX port is underway but is mainly being held up by problems with
>> wxWindows as I understand it. We are in contact with the OSX developer
>> for wxWindows and I believe things are moving along, but unfortunately I
>> don't know much more than that.
>>
>> Jean-Michel, can you give Adam any more useful info?
>
> Dear Adam Witney and friends,
>
> pgAdmin3 is an internationalised product available in 28 languages. It is
> based on the wxWindows multi-platform environment available for MS Windows,
> GNU/Linux and MacOsX and other platforms. At the same time, pgAdmin3 is
> designed to query and display Unicode data stored in PostgreSQL (which is
> also Unicode compliant).
>
> As far as I understood, the port problem relies on the fact that that MacOsX
> is not natively and fully Unicode compliant.
>
> Presently, there are five possible solutions/workarounds:
>
> 1) Compile pgAdmin3 in non-unicode mode. In which case, pgAdmin3 port would be
> unable to display non-european languages and query PostgreSQL Unicode
> databases.
>
> 2) Use the "iconv" library linked against wxWindows in order to bring a
> Unicode abstraction layer to wxWindows. Julian, I had this idea in my sleep,
> is this a workable solution?
>
> 3) Wait for MacOsX 10.3 which should be Unicode compliant. We already
> discussed this opportunity, which does not fit our ideas because it would
> require MacOsX users to upgrade.
>
> 4) Use donated proprietary compilers in order to compile pgAdmin3 under
> MacOsX. My opinion is not to use proprietary software, but other members in
> the team are not agains this idea. This needs to be dicussed.
>
> 5) Compile pgAdmin as a fink package (http://www.fink.org). Maybe too
> complicated for MacOsX users.
>
> Could we discuss these opportunities? My opinion would be to go for 2), 1) and
> 4) and 5) in order of preference. What is the opinion of other members and
> contributors?
>
> Cheers,
> Jean-Michel
>


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Re: PgAdmin III on OSX (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] pgAdmin

От
Andreas Pflug
Дата:
Adam Witney wrote:

>For the time being, I could live with 1), but I couldn't get it to configure
>on my OSX laptop... It couldn't find my pgsql installation... Even though it
>was looking in the right place!
>
>does pgsql have to be compiled with ssl for pgadmin to work?
>

No, not necessarily. If SSL is not defined, you can go unencrypted. If
you compile for SSL, but SSL isn't present in libpq, a single unresolved
reference PQgetssl should show up.

Regards,
Andreas