Обсуждение: Re: CYGWIN AND POSTGRESS
Mark,
Please post instead of sending private email.
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:46:47PM -0500, Mark Perez wrote:
> I have been trying for three days to set this up with your
> instructions, and not once did it work.
Why didn't you post to the pgsql-cygwin list instead of frustrating
yourself for 3 days?
> Instructions are very fragmented and extremely hard to follow.
At least one other person seems to think otherwise:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01551.html
However, I agree that the README could be improved. Why not be
constructive and make suggestions instead of just complaining?
BTW, do you understand that I volunteer (significant amounts of) my
(very limited) free time to provide a pre-built Cygwin PostgreSQL
package? Before I got involved, one had to port and/or patch the source
and build it for Cygwin themselves. IMNSHO, most Cygwin PostgreSQL
users are better off with my pre-built package than without it.
Jason
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I for (another) one greatly value your efforts. I have installed postgres on cygwin several times and I have never had any problems that I couldn't sort out with a little reading and browsing. I do not consider the instructions fragmented or hard to follow. I found the postgresql-x.README in \cygwin\usr\doc\Cygwin had everything I needed. Thanks Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-cygwin-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-cygwin-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Jason Tishler > Sent: 07 November 2003 11:57 > To: Mark Perez > Cc: Pgsql-Cygwin > Subject: Re: [CYGWIN] CYGWIN AND POSTGRESS > > > Mark, > > Please post instead of sending private email. > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:46:47PM -0500, Mark Perez wrote: > > I have been trying for three days to set this up with your > > instructions, and not once did it work. > > Why didn't you post to the pgsql-cygwin list instead of frustrating > yourself for 3 days? > > > Instructions are very fragmented and extremely hard to follow. > > At least one other person seems to think otherwise: > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-08/msg01551.html > > However, I agree that the README could be improved. Why not be > constructive and make suggestions instead of just complaining? > > BTW, do you understand that I volunteer (significant amounts of) my > (very limited) free time to provide a pre-built Cygwin PostgreSQL > package? Before I got involved, one had to port and/or patch the source > and build it for Cygwin themselves. IMNSHO, most Cygwin PostgreSQL > users are better off with my pre-built package than without it. > > Jason > > -- > PGP/GPG Key: http://www.tishler.net/jason/pubkey.asc or key servers > Fingerprint: 7A73 1405 7F2B E669 C19D 8784 1AFD E4CC ECF4 8EF6 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) >
Hi Jason > IMNSHO, most Cygwin PostgreSQL > users are better off with my pre-built package than without it. 100 % true. and also a big THANK YOU. Regards Conni
Conni, On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:12:00PM +0100, Cornelia Boenigk wrote: > > IMNSHO, most Cygwin PostgreSQL > > users are better off with my pre-built package than without it. > > 100 % true. > > and also a big THANK YOU. You are *very* welcome. It is posts like this one that make me feel good about contributing to the Net. Thanks, Jason -- PGP/GPG Key: http://www.tishler.net/jason/pubkey.asc or key servers Fingerprint: 7A73 1405 7F2B E669 C19D 8784 1AFD E4CC ECF4 8EF6
Chris, On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:10:59PM -0000, Chris Faulkner wrote: > I for (another) one greatly value your efforts. Thanks! Jason -- PGP/GPG Key: http://www.tishler.net/jason/pubkey.asc or key servers Fingerprint: 7A73 1405 7F2B E669 C19D 8784 1AFD E4CC ECF4 8EF6
Jason Tishler wrote: ... > BTW, do you understand that I volunteer (significant amounts of) my > (very limited) free time to provide a pre-built Cygwin PostgreSQL > package? Before I got involved, one had to port and/or patch the source > and build it for Cygwin themselves. IMNSHO, most Cygwin PostgreSQL > users are better off with my pre-built package than without it. Amen to that. Jason's contributions are immeasurable, and I for one hope he's around for a long time to come. Thanks for all the work you have saved me alone, Jason! Can't begin to say how much time the README and all your posts here have helped. As for you, Mark Perez, and anyone else who is new to this list, There's an expression that goes along the lines of "don't piss in your own well." My original comments to you were going to be far less subtle, but luckily my wife helps keep me centered. I have no idea how Jason does it, but he's a rock considering the amount of time he puts into this and the kinds of comments/posts/private emails he's constantly being barraged with (like yours). He's helped me with PostgreSQL, and without even realizing it, he's now helped me immensely in other projects altogether. [By the way, Jason, your little tip on using gcc -shared vs. the older dlltool helped me clean up the code in the Jabberd 1.4.x project so that the Cygwin compiles are now on average 30-50% smaller! Unreal. So simple, but without your comment I'd likely never have known. And now it looks like the open-source Jabber server will build under Cygwin just about as cleanly/simply as it does under Linux/etc. You even have me thinking about building a proper Cygwin package for Jabberd. Thanks!] Back to you, Mark. You may just lack serious communication skills. You may have meant well but just didn't think when you wrote. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt (though my initial reaction was far less positive). But please do the rest of us a favor and don't piss in our well, ok? I for one would hate to see Jason get disheartened in any way just because you lacked the common sense and basic decency to write in a polite fashion. I've seen too many people who volunteered their time/energy/money for some project, only to walk away when they'd gotten frustrated by emails that show a complete lack of respect. Too many good projects have died because of such things. You can find examples of this all over the open-source community. It takes a special breed to keep doing this. I realize you're new to PostgreSQL under Cygwin and so are quite likely unfamiliar with the cultural history around here. But Jason is, quite frankly, "the man." He's made access to PostgreSQL for Windows users far easier than it ever was before. And noting the Unix origins of PostgreSQL and how difficult it can be to port such apps to Windows, it's quite an accomplishment. I've just gotten a taste of it, and the project I was playing with is chicken feed compared to PostgreSQL. Jason doesn't have to do any of the things he does here. But I can't imagine where PostgreSQL would be on the Windows platform without him.
Frank, On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:09:05AM -0500, Frank Seesink wrote: > Jason Tishler wrote: > ... > >BTW, do you understand that I volunteer (significant amounts of) my > >(very limited) free time to provide a pre-built Cygwin PostgreSQL > >package? Before I got involved, one had to port and/or patch the > >source and build it for Cygwin themselves. IMNSHO, most Cygwin > >PostgreSQL users are better off with my pre-built package than > >without it. > > Amen to that. > > Jason's contributions are immeasurable, and I for one hope he's around > for a long time to come. > [snip] Thanks for the above. It's appreciative posters like you (and Chris, Conni, George, etc.) that help keep me going. Jason -- PGP/GPG Key: http://www.tishler.net/jason/pubkey.asc or key servers Fingerprint: 7A73 1405 7F2B E669 C19D 8784 1AFD E4CC ECF4 8EF6