Обсуждение: Postgres and Tools Intro?
This has probably been asked before so please be gracious. I have looked on the postgres site and didn't find anything "satisfying." Is there *good* overview of postgres and associated utilities? -- % Randy Yates % "Remember the good old 1980's, when %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % things were so uncomplicated?" %%% 919-577-9882 % 'Ticket To The Moon' %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % *Time*, Electric Light Orchestra http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
Randy Yates wrote: > This has probably been asked before so please be gracious. I > have looked on the postgres site and didn't find anything > "satisfying." > > Is there *good* overview of postgres and associated utilities? Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the problem is that there are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org docs cover the database quite well - between the reference manuals and the FAQ it gives a good picture. What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm sure we can find people who can help. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd
Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com> writes: > Randy Yates wrote: >> This has probably been asked before so please be gracious. I >> have looked on the postgres site and didn't find anything >> "satisfying." >> Is there *good* overview of postgres and associated utilities? > > Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the problem is that there > are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org docs cover the > database quite well - between the reference manuals and the FAQ it > gives a good picture. > > What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm sure we can find > people who can help. PS: Is there a tool for converting MS Access forms and reports into HTML/postgres? -- % Randy Yates % "Rollin' and riding and slippin' and %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % sliding, it's magic." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Living' Thing', *A New World Record*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
Hi Richard, Thanks for writing. Basically I'd like to know what the core applications/tools are and what some of the other more exotic tools are. For example, pgadmin looks like it's gone through a bazillion versions. Which is the latest/greatest? What exactly does it do? If I want to connect to postgres securely from a remote location over the net, what are my options? Is that part of the postgres ODBC driver, or is another layer required for the security part? Why should or shouldn't I use ODBC for connecting remotely? More in the exotic territory, are there tools for translating database schemas (I would like to move my MS Access database into postgres)? Is there a tool for converting a postgres query or table into an MS Access .mdb file? This would be very useful, the scenario being that the "big" database resides in postgres on a remote server with a browser interface, but users can download "snippets" of data (or maybe even the whole tamale) in Access format to their local machines. Got any suggestions? --Randy Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com> writes: > Randy Yates wrote: >> This has probably been asked before so please be gracious. I >> have looked on the postgres site and didn't find anything >> "satisfying." >> Is there *good* overview of postgres and associated utilities? > > Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the problem is that there > are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org docs cover the > database quite well - between the reference manuals and the FAQ it > gives a good picture. > > What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm sure we can find > people who can help. > > -- > Richard Huxton > Archonet Ltd > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@postgresql.org > > -- % Randy Yates % "Maybe one day I'll feel her cold embrace, %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and kiss her interface, %%% 919-577-9882 % til then, I'll leave her alone." %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Yours Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 06:03, Randy Yates wrote: > Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com> writes: > > > Randy Yates wrote: > >> This has probably been asked before so please be gracious. I > >> have looked on the postgres site and didn't find anything > >> "satisfying." > >> Is there *good* overview of postgres and associated utilities? > > > > Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the problem is that there > > are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org docs cover the > > database quite well - between the reference manuals and the FAQ it > > gives a good picture. > > > > What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm sure we can find > > people who can help. > > PS: Is there a tool for converting MS Access forms and reports into > HTML/postgres? The only working one I've run across recently is my brain. :-) Seriously, PHP/PostgreSQL tend to be a bit too loosely coupled to have such a complete "kitchen sync" type application yet. There are many classes for perl, php, or any other web app language found on Linux/BSD to do things like db access, form creation and validation, etc... You just have to pick the pieces you like best. I've always made them by hand, and there are some nice examples out there on the web of doing it a bit more low level.
--- Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > Thanks for writing. Basically I'd like to know what > the core > applications/tools are and what some of the other > more exotic tools > are. For example, pgadmin looks like it's gone > through a bazillion > versions. Which is the latest/greatest? What > exactly does it do? PgAdminIII is the latest. It is a graphical interface, especially useful for database administration and development. Many people use it and are happy. > > If I want to connect to postgres securely from a > remote location > over the net, what are my options? Is that part of > the postgres > ODBC driver, or is another layer required for the > security part? You can use SSL with ODBC, but it requires a bit of fiddling about. Search the archives for information about that. > > Why should or shouldn't I use ODBC for connecting > remotely? ODBC is working fine for lots of people right now. The other mature interfaces include libpq (C) and JDBC (Java). There are others which reportedly work well. It all depends on your choice of development platform. > > More in the exotic territory, are there tools for > translating database > schemas (I would like to move my MS Access database > into postgres)? PgAdminII (the previous version) had a plugin "Database Migration Wizard". I have kept my PgAdminII installation just because of this. I am very happy with the results I have had translating MS Access databases to PostgreSQL by using that Wizard. > Is there a tool for converting a postgres query or > table into an > MS Access .mdb file? This would be very useful, the > scenario being > that the "big" database resides in postgres on a > remote server with > a browser interface, but users can download > "snippets" of data (or maybe > even the whole tamale) in Access format to their > local machines. No such tool exists that I know of. You could do it in code from an existing .mdb file, e.g. something that runs when the file is opened. > > Got any suggestions? > > --Randy > > Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com> writes: > > > Randy Yates wrote: > >> This has probably been asked before so please be > gracious. I > >> have looked on the postgres site and didn't find > anything > >> "satisfying." > >> Is there *good* overview of postgres and > associated utilities? > > > > Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the > problem is that there > > are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org > docs cover the > > database quite well - between the reference > manuals and the FAQ it > > gives a good picture. > > > > What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm > sure we can find > > people who can help. > > > > -- > > Richard Huxton > > Archonet Ltd > > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to > majordomo@postgresql.org > > > > > > -- > % Randy Yates % "Maybe one day > I'll feel her cold embrace, > %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % > and kiss her interface, > %%% 919-577-9882 % til > then, I'll leave her alone." > %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Yours > Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO > http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr > > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com
Jeff Eckermann wrote: > PgAdminII (the previous version) had a plugin > "Database Migration Wizard". I have kept my PgAdminII > installation just because of this. I am very happy > with the results I have had translating MS Access > databases to PostgreSQL by using that Wizard. And also is usefull the function that redirect the output of a query in an excell sheet. Regards Gaetano Mendola
Hi Jeff, THANKS for the pointers - much appreciated! --Randy Jeff Eckermann <jeff_eckermann@yahoo.com> writes: > --- Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Thanks for writing. Basically I'd like to know what >> the core >> applications/tools are and what some of the other >> more exotic tools >> are. For example, pgadmin looks like it's gone >> through a bazillion >> versions. Which is the latest/greatest? What >> exactly does it do? > > PgAdminIII is the latest. It is a graphical > interface, especially useful for database > administration and development. Many people use it > and are happy. > >> >> If I want to connect to postgres securely from a >> remote location >> over the net, what are my options? Is that part of >> the postgres >> ODBC driver, or is another layer required for the >> security part? > > You can use SSL with ODBC, but it requires a bit of > fiddling about. Search the archives for information > about that. > >> >> Why should or shouldn't I use ODBC for connecting >> remotely? > > ODBC is working fine for lots of people right now. > The other mature interfaces include libpq (C) and JDBC > (Java). There are others which reportedly work well. > It all depends on your choice of development platform. > >> >> More in the exotic territory, are there tools for >> translating database >> schemas (I would like to move my MS Access database >> into postgres)? > > PgAdminII (the previous version) had a plugin > "Database Migration Wizard". I have kept my PgAdminII > installation just because of this. I am very happy > with the results I have had translating MS Access > databases to PostgreSQL by using that Wizard. > >> Is there a tool for converting a postgres query or >> table into an >> MS Access .mdb file? This would be very useful, the >> scenario being >> that the "big" database resides in postgres on a >> remote server with >> a browser interface, but users can download >> "snippets" of data (or maybe >> even the whole tamale) in Access format to their >> local machines. > > No such tool exists that I know of. You could do it > in code from an existing .mdb file, e.g. something > that runs when the file is opened. > >> >> Got any suggestions? >> >> --Randy >> >> Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com> writes: >> >> > Randy Yates wrote: >> >> This has probably been asked before so please be >> gracious. I >> >> have looked on the postgres site and didn't find >> anything >> >> "satisfying." >> >> Is there *good* overview of postgres and >> associated utilities? >> > >> > Hmm - not for the family as a whole. Part of the >> problem is that there >> > are quite a few add-on tools. The postgresql.org >> docs cover the >> > database quite well - between the reference >> manuals and the FAQ it >> > gives a good picture. >> > >> > What particular aspects are you interested in? I'm >> sure we can find >> > people who can help. >> > >> > -- >> > Richard Huxton >> > Archonet Ltd >> > >> > ---------------------------(end of >> broadcast)--------------------------- >> > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to >> majordomo@postgresql.org >> > >> > >> >> -- >> % Randy Yates % "Maybe one day >> I'll feel her cold embrace, >> %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % >> and kiss her interface, >> %%% 919-577-9882 % til >> then, I'll leave her alone." >> %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Yours >> Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO >> http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr >> >> >> ---------------------------(end of >> broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? >> >> http://archives.postgresql.org >> > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > -- % Randy Yates % "Rollin' and riding and slippin' and %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % sliding, it's magic." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Living' Thing', *A New World Record*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr