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Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
"Andre Schnoor"
Дата:
Hi,

I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored procedures.
The typical procedure uses

a) named parameters,
b) local variable declarations and assignments
c) transactions
d) cursors, views, etc.

I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.
Procedures can be as long as 20-250 lines, performing heavy data
manipulation tasks, running from a few seconds up to several hours. Database
size is approx. 20GB.

Functions in pgsql are very limited compared to Sybase procedures, so I'll
have to find a workaround somehow. Perhaps somebody can point me to examples
or hints regarding this issue.

Thanks in advance!

Andre



Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
"Frank D. Engel, Jr."
Дата:
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a.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/plpgsql-
declarations.html
b. (same page)
c. ?
d.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/plpgsql-control-
structures.html#PLPGSQL-RECORDS-ITERATING


This brings about a new question: Doesn't a PL/PGSQL function always
execute within the context of a transaction?  I'd think you can't
create a transaction within one then, correct?

On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Andre Schnoor wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored
> procedures.
> The typical procedure uses
>
> a) named parameters,
> b) local variable declarations and assignments
> c) transactions
> d) cursors, views, etc.
>
> I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.
> Procedures can be as long as 20-250 lines, performing heavy data
> manipulation tasks, running from a few seconds up to several hours.
> Database
> size is approx. 20GB.
>
> Functions in pgsql are very limited compared to Sybase procedures, so
> I'll
> have to find a workaround somehow. Perhaps somebody can point me to
> examples
> or hints regarding this issue.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Andre
>
>
>
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Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Andre Schnoor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored procedures.
> The typical procedure uses
>
> a) named parameters,
> b) local variable declarations and assignments
> c) transactions
> d) cursors, views, etc.
>
> I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.

Uhmmm in Postgres function/procedures are the same thing. I am unsure
about named parameters but b,c,d are all available in PostgreSQL.

> Functions in pgsql are very limited compared to Sybase procedures,

I seriously doubt this is the case since you have the ability to use any
number of languages for your procedures including plPgsql, plPython,
plPerl, plPHP etc...

  so I'll
> have to find a workaround somehow. Perhaps somebody can point me to examples
> or hints regarding this issue.

Perhaps if you provided the actual problem? Is there a specific
procedure that you are trying to port that you do not understand in the
PgSQL sense?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake


>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Andre
>
>
>
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Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
Jaime Casanova
Дата:
 --- "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <fde101@fjrhome.net>
escribió:
> a.
>
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/plpgsql-
>
> declarations.html
> b. (same page)
> c. ?
> d.
>
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/plpgsql-control-
>
> structures.html#PLPGSQL-RECORDS-ITERATING
>
>
> This brings about a new question: Doesn't a PL/PGSQL
> function always
> execute within the context of a transaction?  I'd
> think you can't
> create a transaction within one then, correct?
>
AFAIK.

But in pg8 you can use EXCEPTION blocks that are
implemented on the subtransaction mechanism, IIRC.

regards,
Jaime Casanova

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Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
"Andre Schnoor"
Дата:
"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
> Andre Schnoor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored procedures.
> > The typical procedure uses
> >
> > a) named parameters,
> > b) local variable declarations and assignments
> > c) transactions
> > d) cursors, views, etc.
> >
> > I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.

[...]

> Perhaps if you provided the actual problem? Is there a specific
> procedure that you are trying to port that you do not understand in the
> PgSQL sense?

Thank you for asking, Joshua. I've put an example procedure skeleton here:

CREATE PROCEDURE do_something
    @song_id int,
    @user_id int,
    @method int,
    @length int = 0,
    @date_exact datetime,
    @default_country int = null
AS
   -- temporary variables
   DECLARE
      @artist int,
      @sample int,
      @date varchar(32),
      @country int
BEGIN
    -- assign temporary variables
    select @date = convert(varchar(32),@date_exact,101)
    select @artist = user_id, @sample = is_sample from sto_song where song_id = @song_id
    -- perform conditional code
    if (@sample = 1) begin
        begin transaction
        ... do something ...
        commit transaction
    end else begin
        ... do something else ...
    end
    -- return results
    select
        result1 = ... some expression ...,
        result2 = ... another expression ...
END

I could not yet translate this to PgSQL, as I can't find any control structures, variable declaractions, etc.

I assume this can be done through the Perl module, but I find this rather strange. I'm afraid that Perl requires to
havethe queries parsed and passed down each and every time, instead of having them compiled once. I also can't see the
benefitof converting data objects back and forth to/from Perl while everything actually happens within Postgres. 

Am I missing something important?

Greetings,
Andre




Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
John Sidney-Woollett
Дата:
Have you tried looking at this section of the manual?

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/plpgsql.html

It details all the PL/pgSQL language constructs - I found it fine when
converting from Oracle to Postgres...

Just make sure you have installed the pl/pgsql language in template1 or
your database before you try using it - see
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/app-createlang.html or
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/sql-createlanguage.html

Or type /usr/local/pgsql/bin/createlang plpgsql template1 to install the
language into template1, then create your database. Or install directly
into your database...

Hope that helps.

John Sidney-Woollett

Andre Schnoor wrote:

> "Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
>
>>Andre Schnoor wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored procedures.
>>>The typical procedure uses
>>>
>>>a) named parameters,
>>>b) local variable declarations and assignments
>>>c) transactions
>>>d) cursors, views, etc.
>>>
>>>I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>Perhaps if you provided the actual problem? Is there a specific
>>procedure that you are trying to port that you do not understand in the
>>PgSQL sense?
>
>
> Thank you for asking, Joshua. I've put an example procedure skeleton here:
>
> CREATE PROCEDURE do_something
>     @song_id int,
>     @user_id int,
>     @method int,
>     @length int = 0,
>     @date_exact datetime,
>     @default_country int = null
> AS
>    -- temporary variables
>    DECLARE
>       @artist int,
>       @sample int,
>       @date varchar(32),
>       @country int
> BEGIN
>     -- assign temporary variables
>     select @date = convert(varchar(32),@date_exact,101)
>     select @artist = user_id, @sample = is_sample from sto_song where song_id = @song_id
>     -- perform conditional code
>     if (@sample = 1) begin
>         begin transaction
>         ... do something ...
>         commit transaction
>     end else begin
>         ... do something else ...
>     end
>     -- return results
>     select
>         result1 = ... some expression ...,
>         result2 = ... another expression ...
> END
>
> I could not yet translate this to PgSQL, as I can't find any control structures, variable declaractions, etc.
>
> I assume this can be done through the Perl module, but I find this rather strange. I'm afraid that Perl requires to
havethe queries parsed and passed down each and every time, instead of having them compiled once. I also can't see the
benefitof converting data objects back and forth to/from Perl while everything actually happens within Postgres. 
>
> Am I missing something important?
>
> Greetings,
> Andre
>
>
>
>
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Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
mmiranda@americatel.com.sv
Дата:
> CREATE PROCEDURE do_something
>     @song_id int,
>     @user_id int,
>     @method int,
>     @length int = 0,
>     @date_exact datetime,
>     @default_country int = null
> AS
>    -- temporary variables
>    DECLARE
>       @artist int,
>       @sample int,
>       @date varchar(32),
>       @country int
> BEGIN
>     -- assign temporary variables
>     select @date = convert(varchar(32),@date_exact,101)
>     select @artist = user_id, @sample = is_sample from sto_song where
>     song_id = @song_id -- perform conditional code
>     if (@sample = 1) begin
>         begin transaction
>         ... do something ...
>         commit transaction
>     end else begin
>         ... do something else ...
>     end
>     -- return results
>     select
>         result1 = ... some expression ...,
>         result2 = ... another expression ...
> END
>
> I could not yet translate this to PgSQL, as I can't find any control
> structures, variable declaractions, etc.
> Am I missing something important?
>

Absolutely, that is a perfectly normal SP, i use those constructors
everyday, maybe you dont have searched in the docs?.
Perl?, i dont think so, PL/pgSQL is all what you need,

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/interactive/programmer-pl.html
---
Miguel


> Greetings,
> Andre


Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
"Andre Schnoor"
Дата:
<mmiranda@americatel.com.sv> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:76E0DAA32C39D711B6EC0002B364A6FA03F0A7FD@amsal01exc01.americatel.com.sv...
> > CREATE PROCEDURE do_something
> >     @song_id int,
> >     @user_id int,
> >     @method int,
> >     @length int = 0,
> >     @date_exact datetime,
> >     @default_country int = null
> > AS
> >    -- temporary variables
> >    DECLARE
> >       @artist int,
> >       @sample int,
> >       @date varchar(32),
> >       @country int
> > BEGIN
> >     -- assign temporary variables
> >     select @date = convert(varchar(32),@date_exact,101)
> >     select @artist = user_id, @sample = is_sample from sto_song where
> >     song_id = @song_id -- perform conditional code
> >     if (@sample = 1) begin
> >         begin transaction
> >         ... do something ...
> >         commit transaction
> >     end else begin
> >         ... do something else ...
> >     end
> >     -- return results
> >     select
> >         result1 = ... some expression ...,
> >         result2 = ... another expression ...
> > END
> >
> > I could not yet translate this to PgSQL, as I can't find any control
> > structures, variable declaractions, etc.
> > Am I missing something important?
> >
>
> Absolutely, that is a perfectly normal SP, i use those constructors
> everyday, maybe you dont have searched in the docs?.
> Perl?, i dont think so, PL/pgSQL is all what you need,
>

Yes, oops. I have overlooked this.
It wasn't listed where I expected it, sorry.

Greetings,
Andre




Re: Moving from Sybase to Postgres - Stored Procedures

От
Sven Willenberger
Дата:

Andre Schnoor wrote:
> "Joshua D. Drake" wrote:
>
>>Andre Schnoor wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am moving from Sybase to pgsql but have problems with stored procedures.
>>>The typical procedure uses
>>>
>>>a) named parameters,
>>>b) local variable declarations and assignments
>>>c) transactions
>>>d) cursors, views, etc.
>>>
>>>I can't seem to find these things in the Postgres function syntax.
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>Perhaps if you provided the actual problem? Is there a specific
>>procedure that you are trying to port that you do not understand in the
>>PgSQL sense?
>
>
> Thank you for asking, Joshua. I've put an example procedure skeleton here:
>
> CREATE PROCEDURE do_something
>     @song_id int,
>     @user_id int,
>     @method int,
>     @length int = 0,
>     @date_exact datetime,
>     @default_country int = null
> AS
>    -- temporary variables
>    DECLARE
>       @artist int,
>       @sample int,
>       @date varchar(32),
>       @country int
> BEGIN
>     -- assign temporary variables
>     select @date = convert(varchar(32),@date_exact,101)
>     select @artist = user_id, @sample = is_sample from sto_song where song_id = @song_id
>     -- perform conditional code
>     if (@sample = 1) begin
>         begin transaction
>         ... do something ...
>         commit transaction
>     end else begin
>         ... do something else ...
>     end
>     -- return results
>     select
>         result1 = ... some expression ...,
>         result2 = ... another expression ...
> END
>
> I could not yet translate this to PgSQL, as I can't find any control structures, variable declaractions, etc.
>
I think what you want is plpgsql (which needs to instantiated on the
database in question)
createlang -U postgres plgsql dbname (for example)

The documentation is pretty decent on the language itself: for example:

CREATE FUNCTION somefunction (integer, integer, timestamp) RETURNS
[setof] datatype AS $$
DECLARE
    -- alias the passed arguments
    thesong_id ALIAS FOR $1;
    theuser_id ALIAS FOR $2;
    datetime ALIAS FOR $3;
    -- temporary variables
    artist int;
    sample int;
    thedate date;
BEGIN
    thedate := datetime::date;
    SELECT INTO artist user_id from sto_song where song_id = thesong_id;
    SELECT INTO sample is_sample from sto_song where song_id = thesong_id;
    IF sample = 1 THEN
        -- do stuff
    ELSE
        -- do other stuff
    END IF;
    RETURN something;
END;
$$ LANGUAGE plpgsql;

See if that helps you ... it really looks as though the languages are
similar enough that moving the stored procedures should a fairly decent
proposition.

Sven