Обсуждение: What Front-End you suggest ?
Dear friends,
I need to development one system in native Linux, Language and DataBase, today I use PostgreSQL with Delphi 2005 in Windows 2005 Servers, and I need to know what language will use to do this ?
That you suggest ?
This Langage work good in what Linux SO ?
This language have developmente ambient IDE (like Delphi 2005) ?
Where may download this compiler to test ?
Tks for help.
Gerson
I'd go for a scripting language and a cross-platform GUI-toolkit like GTK, QT or XUL. If you dislike scripting languages for some reason, write it in plain C and use one of the GUI-toolkits above. Besides this there is Kylix, but if you are using Delphi anyway, you should know about it. The last approach would be a web-based solution (might be XUL as well). On 07.10.2005 14:03, Gerson - Yahoo wrote: > I need to development one system in native Linux, Language and DataBase, > today I use PostgreSQL with Delphi 2005 in Windows 2005 Servers, and I need > to know what language will use to do this ? > > That you suggest ? > > This Langage work good in what Linux SO ? > > This language have developmente ambient IDE (like Delphi 2005) ? > > Where may download this compiler to test ? -- Regards, Hannes Dorbath
Gerson - Yahoo wrote: > _Dear friends,_ > > _ _ > > _I need to development one system in native Linux, Language and > DataBase, today I use PostgreSQL with Delphi 2005 in Windows 2005 > Servers, and I need to know what language will use to do this ?_ > > _That you suggest ?_ > > _This Langage work good in what Linux SO ?_ > > _This language have developmente ambient IDE (like Delphi 2005) ?_ > > _Where may download this compiler to test ?_ > > _ _ > > _Tks for help._ > > _ _ > > _Gerson_ > > _ _ > You could try Lazarus with the Zeos components, very delphi like and works on Linux,win32, and Mac OS X. http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ -- Tony Caduto http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql 8.x
Gerson - Yahoo wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20051007120608.3DADDD8833@svr1.postgresql.org" type="cite"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="metricconverter"> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EstiloDeEmail17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; margin:70.85pt 3.0cm 70.85pt 3.0cm;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Dear friends, <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">I need to development one system in native Linux, Language and DataBase, today I use PostgreSQL with Delphi 2005 in Windows 2005 Servers, and I need to know what language will use to do this ? <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">That you suggest ? <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">This Langage work good in what Linux SO ? <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">This language have developmente ambient IDE (like Delphi 2005) ? <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Where may download this compiler to test ? <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Tks for help. <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US">Gerson <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-US"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> Java... And Eclipse for your IDE. And using SWT rather than Swing for your GUI. Dan -- **************************** Daniel Armbrust Biomedical Informatics Mayo Clinic Rochester daniel.armbrust(at)mayo.edu http://informatics.mayo.edu/
Mr. Armbrust,
Hopefully, this isn't off topic. Just wondering why SWT instead of swing?
Michael Schmidt
Michael Schmidt wrote: <blockquote cite="midBAY101-DAV13F5B87CA73553F1B32BD4A3840@phx.gbl" type="cite"><style></style><div>Mr.Armbrust,</div><div>Hopefully, this isn't off topic. Just wondering why SWT instead ofswing?</div><div> </div><div>Michael Schmidt</div></blockquote><tt>I'm pretty sure this is completely off topic, but I'llindulge it - <br /><br /> I've done development using Swing and SWT - and I find SWT's APIs to be much cleaner, intuitive,and easy to use. Manual GUI development is much quicker with SWT and results in much less code that is far morereadable. Also, SWT layout managers are _much_ easier to use than the crud that comes with Swing from Sun.<br /><br/> Side note - if you do have to do Swing development, I highly recommend using the JGoodies forms package - it is alayout manager for Swing </tt>that is far and away better than trying to do things with Swing layout managers - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/forms/index.html">http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/forms/index.html</a><br/> As anexample, I rewrote some forms that were 800 lines of code using GridBagLayout into about 150 lines of code using JGoodies. And the JGoodies code is far more readable.<br /><br /> Back to SWT - Swing still just looks like crud when comparedside-by-side with native Windows applications. Especially in windows XP - Sun still doesn't have the Windows XPLook and Feel implemented properly. And if a user applies a custom XP skin, then it really looks strange. The file choosersdon't look or work like native Windows XP file choosers. And when windows "super duper 5.0" comes out next year,I'm sure it will only take sun another 3 years or so to write the new look and Feel. Meanwhile, your apps just lookweird. SWT Apps _always_ look exactly like the OS look and feel - because it uses the native OS widgets. You canalso embed Swing parts into a SWT application if you need to.<br /><br /> When I write a SWT application, most of my usersdon't even know it is a java application. It just looks like a normal "windows" application. You can also launch SWTapps using Java WebStart, or, if you don't want to use webstart, you combine your app, SWT, and <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"href="http://jsmooth.sourceforge.net/">http://jsmooth.sourceforge.net/</a> and suddenly youhave a native windows executable for your users. All of javas ugly bits are safely hidden away from your end user.<br/><br /> If you want to compare a Swing application (written using JGoodies looks and JGoodies look and feel - whichdoes a better job than Suns look and feel at looking like Windows XP) side by side with a similar SWT application -take a look at these two apps:<br /><br /> (scroll down to the webstart links)<br /> (ps - these apps aren't supposed tobe masterpieces of user interface design - they are just utilities for techie types using LexGrid)<br /><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://informatics.mayo.edu/LexGrid/index.php?page=convert">http://informatics.mayo.edu/LexGrid/index.php?page=convert</a><br /><aclass="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://informatics.mayo.edu/LexGrid/index.php?page=indexer">http://informatics.mayo.edu/LexGrid/index.php?page=indexer</a><br /><br/> Especially pay attention to the speed and appearance of the file choosers (click the "Browse..". button) - to enablethe second file chooser in the Indexer Creator app - go to the "Options" menu and choose "Build Normalized Index"<br/><br /> Another awesome gui that is written in SWT (and most end users don't even know its written in Java)<br/><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://azureus.sourceforge.net/">http://azureus.sourceforge.net/</a><br/><br /> And a couple more - to finish witha little bit of relevance to PostgreSQL<br /> A database designer plugin for Eclipse (which is all written in SWT) - supports PostgreSQL:<br /><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.azzurri.jp/en/software/clay/index.jsp">http://www.azzurri.jp/en/software/clay/index.jsp</a><br/><br /> Anotherdatabase plugin for Eclipse that lets you work with a PostgreSQL database.<br /><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://quantum.sourceforge.net/screen_shots.html">http://quantum.sourceforge.net/screen_shots.html</a><br/><br /> Dan<br/><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"> **************************** Daniel Armbrust Biomedical Informatics Mayo Clinic Rochester daniel.armbrust(at)mayo.edu <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://informatics.mayo.edu/">http://informatics.mayo.edu/</a> </pre>
if you write a (warning incoming buzz-word) web-based front-end, it wouldn't have to be operating system specific, so why not use PGP for a middle layer and use XML (define an XML schema first) to pass information to a DHTML (javascript, XHTML, CSS) front-end. I have implemented this design with alot of sucess several times. On 10/7/05, Michael Schmidt <michaelmschmidt@msn.com> wrote: > > Mr. Armbrust, > Hopefully, this isn't off topic. Just wondering why SWT instead of swing? > > Michael Schmidt