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How to store the time zone with a timestamp

От
"Andrew B. Young"
Дата:
I just realized that the type "timestamp with time zone" does NOT store
the time zone!
(And I just found this support list to look for help.)

I am developing an application that stores power (watts) readings from
meters
located around the world (abridged)--
    power_meter_id integer NOT NULL,
    "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
    power_reading real NOT NULL

Not storing the originating TZ is unacceptable.  My search of this list
finds a number of
helpful discussions (including a reference to a TODO; soon I hope!)  I
don't know
database programming and wonder if experienced users could reply with
some code
they've implemented.

I think the best solution is along Karsten's, which I believe goes like
this--
1) "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
     "tz" char( 6 ) NOT NULL,   # '-12:00' to '+13:00'
2) A insert trigger that populates "tz"
3)  Some function foo() that
    a) calls timezone( tz, ts ) and
    b) tacks on tz to the resulting string
  in a "SELECT power_meter_id, foo( ts, tz ), power_reading;"

ANY snip its of code that implements anything related would be appreciated.
I can probably gin the complete solution seeing enough examples.

Thanks!
Andrew

Re: How to store the time zone with a timestamp

От
"Jim C. Nasby"
Дата:
BTW, if you wanted a more integrated solution, you could build a custom
type that would store the timestamp info. There's a good chance such
code would end up being what's used in the server as the official type,
too.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:57:04AM -0800, Andrew B. Young wrote:
> I just realized that the type "timestamp with time zone" does NOT store
> the time zone!
> (And I just found this support list to look for help.)
>
> I am developing an application that stores power (watts) readings from
> meters
> located around the world (abridged)--
>    power_meter_id integer NOT NULL,
>    "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
>    power_reading real NOT NULL
>
> Not storing the originating TZ is unacceptable.  My search of this list
> finds a number of
> helpful discussions (including a reference to a TODO; soon I hope!)  I
> don't know
> database programming and wonder if experienced users could reply with
> some code
> they've implemented.
>
> I think the best solution is along Karsten's, which I believe goes like
> this--
> 1) "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
>     "tz" char( 6 ) NOT NULL,   # '-12:00' to '+13:00'
> 2) A insert trigger that populates "tz"
> 3)  Some function foo() that
>    a) calls timezone( tz, ts ) and
>    b) tacks on tz to the resulting string
>  in a "SELECT power_meter_id, foo( ts, tz ), power_reading;"
>
> ANY snip its of code that implements anything related would be appreciated.
> I can probably gin the complete solution seeing enough examples.
>
> Thanks!
> Andrew
>
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Re: How to store the time zone with a timestamp

От
Martijn van Oosterhout
Дата:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:18:04PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> BTW, if you wanted a more integrated solution, you could build a custom
> type that would store the timestamp info. There's a good chance such
> code would end up being what's used in the server as the official type,
> too.

Well, I wrote a module for storing arbitrary tags with base types. One
of the uses would be for a timestamp that remembers the timezone. I
havn't received all that much feedback on it which leads me to conclude
timestamps-remebering-timezones are not a heavily requested feature.
It's probably on the same level as the ENUM suggested a while ago.
Interesting, but not enough to get it included into core.

http://svana.org/kleptog/pgsql/taggedtypes.html

That said, I'd love for a variation of this to be included since I
beleive it has a lot of applications not thought of yet. If user-types
could define their own typmod values, that'd make it complete.

Have a nice day,
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> tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone
> else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.

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Re: How to store the time zone with a timestamp

От
"Jim C. Nasby"
Дата:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 11:25:22PM +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:18:04PM -0600, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > BTW, if you wanted a more integrated solution, you could build a custom
> > type that would store the timestamp info. There's a good chance such
> > code would end up being what's used in the server as the official type,
> > too.
>
> Well, I wrote a module for storing arbitrary tags with base types. One
> of the uses would be for a timestamp that remembers the timezone. I
> havn't received all that much feedback on it which leads me to conclude
> timestamps-remebering-timezones are not a heavily requested feature.
> It's probably on the same level as the ENUM suggested a while ago.
> Interesting, but not enough to get it included into core.
>
> http://svana.org/kleptog/pgsql/taggedtypes.html
>
> That said, I'd love for a variation of this to be included since I
> beleive it has a lot of applications not thought of yet. If user-types
> could define their own typmod values, that'd make it complete.

Wow, that's damn cool and useful. You should put it on pgFoundry (at
least as a project that links back to your site) so people can find it
there.
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Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      jnasby@pervasive.com
Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf       cell: 512-569-9461

Re: How to store the time zone with a timestamp

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
We have a TODO also:

        o Allow TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE to store the original timezone
          information, either zone name or offset from UTC [timezone]

          If the TIMESTAMP value is stored with a time zone name, interval
          computations should adjust based on the time zone rules.


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Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> BTW, if you wanted a more integrated solution, you could build a custom
> type that would store the timestamp info. There's a good chance such
> code would end up being what's used in the server as the official type,
> too.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:57:04AM -0800, Andrew B. Young wrote:
> > I just realized that the type "timestamp with time zone" does NOT store
> > the time zone!
> > (And I just found this support list to look for help.)
> >
> > I am developing an application that stores power (watts) readings from
> > meters
> > located around the world (abridged)--
> >    power_meter_id integer NOT NULL,
> >    "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
> >    power_reading real NOT NULL
> >
> > Not storing the originating TZ is unacceptable.  My search of this list
> > finds a number of
> > helpful discussions (including a reference to a TODO; soon I hope!)  I
> > don't know
> > database programming and wonder if experienced users could reply with
> > some code
> > they've implemented.
> >
> > I think the best solution is along Karsten's, which I believe goes like
> > this--
> > 1) "ts" timestamp with time zone NOT NULL,
> >     "tz" char( 6 ) NOT NULL,   # '-12:00' to '+13:00'
> > 2) A insert trigger that populates "tz"
> > 3)  Some function foo() that
> >    a) calls timezone( tz, ts ) and
> >    b) tacks on tz to the resulting string
> >  in a "SELECT power_meter_id, foo( ts, tz ), power_reading;"
> >
> > ANY snip its of code that implements anything related would be appreciated.
> > I can probably gin the complete solution seeing enough examples.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Andrew
> >
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> >
>
> --
> Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      jnasby@pervasive.com
> Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
> vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf       cell: 512-569-9461
>
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