Обсуждение: B-tree fan-out

What is the fan-out (number of child nodes) on each B-tree node in
postgresql? Is it dependent of the size of the keys being indexed? If
so: How?

In B-trees all non-leaf nodes have a bunch of pointers to its child
nodes. What is the size of such a pointer?


Thanks

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:32:30PM +0200, cluster wrote:
> What is the fan-out (number of child nodes) on each B-tree node in
> postgresql? Is it dependent of the size of the keys being indexed? If
> so: How?

In postgres, everything is done in pages, so how ever many keys fit in
a page. Bigs keys mean less. For integers you can fit an awful lot of
keys.


> In B-trees all non-leaf nodes have a bunch of pointers to its child
> nodes. What is the size of such a pointer?

I imagine it's a page number, probably just a 32-bit integer.

Have a nice day,
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Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog@svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate.

> In postgres, everything is done in pages, so how ever many keys fit in
> a page. Bigs keys mean less. For integers you can fit an awful lot of
> keys.
>
>
OK, interesting. Does that mean, that when a node containing only small
values (e.g. integers) is split, then it gets an awful lot of child nodes?

>> In B-trees all non-leaf nodes have a bunch of pointers to its child
>> nodes. What is the size of such a pointer?
> I imagine it's a page number, probably just a 32-bit integer.
>
OK, thanks a lot. Do you know if other database systems implement
b-trees this way too? I.e. one page per node.

Thanks!

On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 04:11:52PM +0200, cluster wrote:
>
> >In postgres, everything is done in pages, so how ever many keys fit in
> >a page. Bigs keys mean less. For integers you can fit an awful lot of
> >keys.
> OK, interesting. Does that mean, that when a node containing only small
> values (e.g. integers) is split, then it gets an awful lot of child nodes?

No, when you split a page it gets split in two, with each page getting
half the keys of the old one. This is independant of the size of the
keys. (This is also why a key is limited to 1/3 page size, so you can
always split a page into two smaller ones.)

In any case, I think the answer to your original question is that the
fan-out can be up to several hundred per level, but it's not fixed.

> >>In B-trees all non-leaf nodes have a bunch of pointers to its child
> >>nodes. What is the size of such a pointer?
> >I imagine it's a page number, probably just a 32-bit integer.
> >
> OK, thanks a lot. Do you know if other database systems implement
> b-trees this way too? I.e. one page per node.

No idea whatsoever.

Have a nice day,
--
Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog@svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate.

> In any case, I think the answer to your original question is that the
> fan-out can be up to several hundred per level, but it's not fixed.

OK, its beginning to make sense. So the fan-out is given by the key size
and each child node is stored in its own page. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance!

Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org> writes:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:32:30PM +0200, cluster wrote:
>> In B-trees all non-leaf nodes have a bunch of pointers to its child
>> nodes. What is the size of such a pointer?

> I imagine it's a page number, probably just a 32-bit integer.

src/include/access/itup.h
Also see "Notes about data representation" in
src/backend/access/nbtree/README

We use the same tuple format for all entries in a btree.  The line
number part of the t_tid field is useless for downlinks, but in view of
alignment considerations this is unlikely to be worth worrying about.

            regards, tom lane

On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 05:58:51PM +0200, cluster wrote:
> >In any case, I think the answer to your original question is that the
> >fan-out can be up to several hundred per level, but it's not fixed.
>
> OK, its beginning to make sense. So the fan-out is given by the key size
> and each child node is stored in its own page. Is that correct?

I beleive so, yes. Each branch is a page that points to many either
branches or leaves. A leaf is also a page which can contain many keys,
which reference tuples in the actual table.

Have a nice day,
--
Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog@svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> From each according to his ability. To each according to his ability to litigate.