Обсуждение: Gborg and pgfoundry
I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the move. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and > pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the > move. Bruce, You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering to do? Cheers, D -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote!
David Fetter wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and > > pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the > > move. > > Bruce, > > You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in > order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering > to do? I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty. -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Bruce Momjian wrote: > David Fetter wrote: >> On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and >>> pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the >>> move. >> Bruce, >> >> You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in >> order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering >> to do? > > I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no > motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this > migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty. > I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off a limb. Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutionssince 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:13AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > >David Fetter wrote: > >>On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>>I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and > >>>pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force > >>>the move. > >>Bruce, > >> > >>You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming > >>work in order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you > >>volunteering to do? > > > >I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is > >no motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing > >this migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it > >dirty. > > I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off > a limb. It would be a great service to the community if people could document--maybe in some kind of wiki or something--just how they did each piece. We could also put stuff on the front of gborg, mail every project lead, etc., etc. In other words, a concerted effort here would have non-trivial overhead, but also non-trivial pay-off :) Let's start with the first thing: What features map on gborg map to which features on pgfoundry? Cheers, D -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote!
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: > David Fetter wrote: >> On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and >>> pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the >>> move. >> >> Bruce, >> >> You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming work in >> order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you volunteering >> to do? > > I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is no > motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing this > migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it dirty. gborg won't be shut down until Josh et al are ready with pgfoundry ... and, right now, the 'et al' is fairly busy with stuff like OSDN and the Anniversary which are quickly approaching ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
David Fetter wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 10:11:13AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> David Fetter wrote: >>>> On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:33:53PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>>>> I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and >>>>> pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force >>>>> the move. > >>>> Bruce, >>>> >>>> You know that there is a tall stack of finicky, time-consuming >>>> work in order to make this possible. Which parts of it are you >>>> volunteering to do? >>> >>> I will move my projects manually, and until we set a date, there is >>> no motivation for anyone to move their own projects. Someone doing >>> this migration is not working (for years), so let's just do it >>> dirty. >> >> I have to agree with Bruce here. Sometimes you just have to cut off >> a limb. > > It would be a great service to the community if people could > document--maybe in some kind of wiki or something--just how they did > each piece. We could also put stuff on the front of gborg, mail every > project lead, etc., etc. In other words, a concerted effort here > would have non-trivial overhead, but also non-trivial pay-off :) > > Let's start with the first thing: What features map on gborg map to > which features on pgfoundry? > I've offered to help with this, but things are so poorly documented that I have to guess where things are, and I'm not one that's used either site. I do have a bunch of sysadmin knowledge, and script writing ability, but knowledge of how each is set up, is resident in a very small minority of the folks that help run things. I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community" projects, and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more information about how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and lots of the people have no idea how it is set up. I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough. Larry Rosenman -- Larry Rosenman Database Support Engineer PERVASIVE SOFTWARE. INC. 12365B RIATA TRACE PKWY 3015 AUSTIN TX 78727-6531 Tel: 512.231.6173 Fax: 512.231.6597 Email: Larry.Rosenman@pervasive.com Web: www.pervasive.com
Larry Rosenman wrote: > > I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community" > projects, > and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more > information about > how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and > lots of the > people have no idea how it is set up. > > I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough. > > Larry, I don't have any knowledge of gborg, but I do have pretty good knowledge of how everything works on pgfoundry. Feel free to ping me on IRC or via email if you have questions. I am as impatient as everyone to get this done. cheers andrew
On Thu, 25 May 2006, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Larry Rosenman wrote: >> >> I have Pervasive's blessing to spend paid time working on "community" >> projects, and this could be one of them, but every time I try to get more >> information about >> how things on BOTH gborg and pgfoundry are set up, it takes days, and >> lots of the people have no idea how it is set up. >> I truly *WANT* to help here, but getting the information is tough. >> >> > > Larry, > > I don't have any knowledge of gborg, but I do have pretty good knowledge of > how everything works on pgfoundry. Feel free to ping me on IRC or via email > if you have questions. The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
> The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already > done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major > scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of > things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing? I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question is: Where is the scripting? Joshua D. Drake > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutionssince 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/
Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already >> done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major >> scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side >> of things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot >> of testing? > > I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question > is: > > Where is the scripting? > it's in an admin project on pgfoundry, and VERY lacking in details. It assumes a LOT of knowledge that is not readily apparent. -- Larry Rosenman Database Support Engineer PERVASIVE SOFTWARE. INC. 12365B RIATA TRACE PKWY 3015 AUSTIN TX 78727-6531 Tel: 512.231.6173 Fax: 512.231.6597 Email: Larry.Rosenman@pervasive.com Web: www.pervasive.com
Last I heard, JoshB was working on testing it ... On Thu, 25 May 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already done? >> Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major scripting >> effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of things, which >> I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of testing? > > I remember reading something abou this as well but the big question is: > > Where is the scripting? > > Joshua D. Drake > > >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster >> > > > -- > > === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === > Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 > Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 > http://www.commandprompt.com/ > > > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Marc, > The thing is, I thought that the scripting work for this was already > done? Since we're doing CVS->CVS and mailman->mailman, the only major > scripting effort was required on the gborg-sql -> pgfoundry-sql side of > things, which I *thought* was already written, just needed alot of > testing? There is, let me send link to Larry. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Bruce, > I am asking again: what is the timetable for merging gborg and > pgfoundry, and if not, can we set a date to shut down to force the move. Looking more like mid-June. I didn't have the time for this at the beginning of May that I thought I would have. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco