Обсуждение: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope
I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query speed using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python, but I'm not not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to learn as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and other statistical tools. What do you think? And what are other people using? Sean Product Test Engineer Pilot production group
Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean: > I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and > client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query This is definitely the wrong list for such a question. -- e-Trolley Sayegh & John, Nabil Sayegh Tel.: 0700 etrolley /// 0700 38765539 Fax.: +49 69 8299381-8 PGP : http://www.e-trolley.de
Hello, We have been using CF Pro Linux on RH-machine for about two years now. It is very fast and powerful for all kinds of applications but has some typical non-native features like enormous memory consumption. And the license. The license price is not maybe too bad, considering that with a single machine license you can manage a virtual domain server. BR, aarni On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:07, you wrote: > I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and > client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query > speed > using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python, but I'm > not > not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to > learn > as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and > other statistical > tools. What do you think? And what are other people using? > > Sean > Product Test Engineer > Pilot production group > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) -- Aarni Ruuhimäki Megative Tmi KYMI.com Pääsintie 26 45100 Kouvola info@kymi.com / aarni.ruuhimaki@kymi.com 05 - 3755 035 / 050 - 4910 037 ------------------------------- Linux RedHat 7.3. / KDE 3.0 -------------------------------
Nabil Sayegh wrote: >Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean: > > >>I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and >>client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query >> >> > >This is definitely the wrong list for such a question. > > > why is this the wrong list??? it's a general question and about postgresql !!!! did not understand your response Depends on your need If you want to make a big professional thing use zope. take a look at www.plone.org I have no experience with cold fusion so no answer. If you want to uild your own special thing from scratch use PHP Regards Ewald Geschwinde
Cold Fusion is a very good tool and can be used with Java / JSP / or Java Script. It is a very main stream tool. If for some reason you wanted to separate the presentation (web page) from the backend (postgres) it could very easily be done. It is also very easily understood by html folks without a tremendous amount of programming experience. From what I understand Zope is very powerful but has a substantial learning curve. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Aarni Ruuhimäki [mailto:aarni.ruuhimaki@kymi.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:18 PM To: Sugrue, Sean Cc: pgsql-novice Subject: Re: [NOVICE] PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope Hello, We have been using CF Pro Linux on RH-machine for about two years now. It is very fast and powerful for all kinds of applications but has some typical non-native features like enormous memory consumption. And the license. The license price is not maybe too bad, considering that with a single machine license you can manage a virtual domain server. BR, aarni On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:07, you wrote: > I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and > client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query > speed using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python, > but I'm not > not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to > learn > as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and > other statistical > tools. What do you think? And what are other people using? > > Sean > Product Test Engineer > Pilot production group > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) -- Aarni Ruuhimäki Megative Tmi KYMI.com Pääsintie 26 45100 Kouvola info@kymi.com / aarni.ruuhimaki@kymi.com 05 - 3755 035 / 050 - 4910 037 ------------------------------- Linux RedHat 7.3. / KDE 3.0 ------------------------------- ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
You could use also "MASON", http://www.masonhq.com it is like php but you use perl to develop your applications, it is so good, hope this help you Best Regards, Jorge Ramirez. http://www.chicolinux.com.mx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ewald Geschwinde" <webmaster@geschwinde.net> To: "Nabil Sayegh" <postgresql@e-trolley.de> Cc: "Sugrue, Sean" <Sean.Sugrue@analog.com>; "pgsql-novice" <pgsql-novice@postgresql.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [NOVICE] PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope > Nabil Sayegh wrote: > > >Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean: > > > > > >>I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and > >>client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query > >> > >> > > > >This is definitely the wrong list for such a question. > > > > > > > why is this the wrong list??? > it's a general question and about postgresql !!!! > did not understand your response > > Depends on your need > If you want to make a big professional thing use zope. take a look at > www.plone.org > > I have no experience with cold fusion so no answer. > If you want to uild your own special thing from scratch use PHP > > Regards > Ewald Geschwinde > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly >
Would you consider "Webware"? It is written in python, and you can write what you want in python rather than dtml in Zope. http://webware.sourceforge.net/ --- "Sugrue, Sean" <Sean.Sugrue@analog.com> wrote: > > I am looking for some opinions on what to use for > WEB development and > client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) > along with query > speed > using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope > with Python, but I'm > not > not sure it's worth the time investment, given that > it is not as easy to > learn > as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that > show histogram and > other statistical > tools. What do you think? And what are other people > using? > > Sean > Product Test Engineer > Pilot production group > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the > unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) _______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk
Sean, Or, just to confuse the issue, there is an OSS project with a web application framework built in C++. It's called OAS server ... google it. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Could this please be discussed in a more suited list ? I really don't see what this has to do with postgresql. thx -- e-Trolley Sayegh & John, Nabil Sayegh Tel.: 0700 etrolley /// 0700 38765539 Fax.: +49 69 8299381-8 PGP : http://www.e-trolley.de