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time to move to the new code

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Robert Treat
Дата:
I think it is time to move to the new code for www. The biggest argument
against the idea was the desire some folks had to implement a new design
along with the new code.  Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets
more out of synch as maintainance on the live site rolls on, so I think we
need to bite the bullet and move to the new code. Once it is in place we
should be able to make deisng changes much easier anyway, after all that is
part of the point of the new code.  Are there any open items that would
prevent us from making the switch?

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Robert Treat
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Re: time to move to the new code

От
"Gavin M. Roy"
Дата:
I'm willing to jam a new design out if we can get a common consensus on
design desires.  The basic thing I got from the last round is that
people dont want anything different.  Maybe it makes sense to prepare a
new site, design and all, and launch it with 8.0 when it comes out of beta?

Gavin

Robert Treat wrote:

>I think it is time to move to the new code for www. The biggest argument
>against the idea was the desire some folks had to implement a new design
>along with the new code.  Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets
>more out of synch as maintainance on the live site rolls on, so I think we
>need to bite the bullet and move to the new code. Once it is in place we
>should be able to make deisng changes much easier anyway, after all that is
>part of the point of the new code.  Are there any open items that would
>prevent us from making the switch?
>
>
>


Re: time to move to the new code

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
"Gavin M. Roy" <gmr@ehpg.net> writes:
> Maybe it makes sense to prepare a
> new site, design and all, and launch it with 8.0 when it comes out of beta?

That seems like about the worst possible timing :-(.  You want to shake
out any problems while we are not under the spotlight.

I'd go for installing the site update any time between now and
impending-8.0-release.  Per recent discussion, that gives y'all
at least a month or two wiggle room ...

            regards, tom lane

Re: time to move to the new code

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Justin Clift
Дата:
Gavin M. Roy wrote:

> I'm willing to jam a new design out if we can get a common consensus on
> design desires.  The basic thing I got from the last round is that
> people dont want anything different.  Maybe it makes sense to prepare a
> new site, design and all, and launch it with 8.0 when it comes out of beta?

Well, how about we put the new code on the site now, and then you've got
some time until the 8.0 release to get a new design running and working
efficiently?  (Kind of works in with what Tom said too)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

> Gavin


Re: time to move to the new code

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Robert Treat wrote:

> I think it is time to move to the new code for www. The biggest argument
> against the idea was the desire some folks had to implement a new design
> along with the new code.  Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets
> more out of synch as maintainance on the live site rolls on, so I think we
> need to bite the bullet and move to the new code. Once it is in place we
> should be able to make deisng changes much easier anyway, after all that is
> part of the point of the new code.  Are there any open items that would
> prevent us from making the switch?

I *believe* that the new code was developed/designed on the current VM ...
is that correct?  Or are there any modules that need to be installed
before it can go live?

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Re: time to move to the new code

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"Dave Page"
Дата:
None that I know of - it just needs the content to be sync'ed, and for someone with some spare time to look at it (not
meI'm afraid - but I'll be all finished on my DS in November if that helps :-) ). 

Regards, Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org on behalf of Robert Treat
Sent: Sat 8/14/2004 6:06 AM
To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: [pgsql-www] time to move to the new code

I think it is time to move to the new code for www. The biggest argument
against the idea was the desire some folks had to implement a new design
along with the new code.  Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets
more out of synch as maintainance on the live site rolls on, so I think we
need to bite the bullet and move to the new code. Once it is in place we
should be able to make deisng changes much easier anyway, after all that is
part of the point of the new code.  Are there any open items that would
prevent us from making the switch?

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Robert Treat
Build A Better Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

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Re: time to move to the new code

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Alexey Borzov
Дата:
Hi,

Robert Treat wrote:
> Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets
> more out of synch as maintainance on the live site rolls on,

One has to wonder why people doing maintenance do not update the new version as
well...

> so I think we
> need to bite the bullet and move to the new code. Once it is in place we
> should be able to make deisng changes much easier anyway, after all that is
> part of the point of the new code.  Are there any open items that would
> prevent us from making the switch?

The new site is online, as you know: http://alexey.beta.postgresql.org

I'd be very grateful if someone went over it and wrote down all the open items
and differences to the current site.

The code was ready ~ 2 months ago, and I was asking for the input back then:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-www/2004-06/msg00088.php

Re: time to move to the new code

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Robert Treat wrote:
>> Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets more out of synch as
>> maintainance on the live site rolls on,
>
> One has to wonder why people doing maintenance do not update the new version
> as well...

Time?

> I'd be very grateful if someone went over it and wrote down all the open
> items and differences to the current site.

The only thing that looks off is the right vertical menu is wider then the
left, and seems to throw things off a bit visually ... other then that, my
standard beef about it expanding to the full width of my browser :)

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Re: time to move to the new code

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Robert Treat wrote:
> >> Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets more out of synch as
> >> maintainance on the live site rolls on,
> >
> > One has to wonder why people doing maintenance do not update the new version
> > as well...
>
> Time?
>
> > I'd be very grateful if someone went over it and wrote down all the open
> > items and differences to the current site.
>
> The only thing that looks off is the right vertical menu is wider then the
> left, and seems to throw things off a bit visually ... other then that, my
> standard beef about it expanding to the full width of my browser :)

I vote we install whatever we have and then we can look at adjustments.
I am concerned if we wait for it to be perfect it will never get
installed.

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Re: time to move to the new code

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Robert Treat wrote:
>>>> Well, the design doesn't get done and the code gets more out of synch as
>>>> maintainance on the live site rolls on,
>>>
>>> One has to wonder why people doing maintenance do not update the new version
>>> as well...
>>
>> Time?
>>
>>> I'd be very grateful if someone went over it and wrote down all the open
>>> items and differences to the current site.
>>
>> The only thing that looks off is the right vertical menu is wider then the
>> left, and seems to throw things off a bit visually ... other then that, my
>> standard beef about it expanding to the full width of my browser :)
>
> I vote we install whatever we have and then we can look at adjustments.
> I am concerned if we wait for it to be perfect it will never get
> installed.

No arguments from here on that ...

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Re: time to move to the new code

От
Justin Clift
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
<snip>
>> I vote we install whatever we have and then we can look at adjustments.
>> I am concerned if we wait for it to be perfect it will never get
>> installed.
>
> No arguments from here on that ...

Sounds like a decent plan.  :)

+ Justin


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