Обсуждение: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Free VPS Hosting w/ PostreSQL - Limited # Available
Why was this approved for posting to -announce? AFAIK, we normally refer hosters to the list on the website, no? //Magnus On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 06:25, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > > NOTE: A minor changes have been made to the original offer ... > > 1. there are an equi-number of free *quarterly* VPSs also available, > so if you don't make it in time for the Annual, you can still sign > up for the quarterly. > > ==== > > Hello fellow open-source users and developers, > > My name is Marc Fournier, and I'd like to highlight Hub.org's monthly VPS > giveaway. In case you've never heard of hub.org: > > - Hub.org is small, customer-oriented host which I founded during the > mid-1990s, in order to host the PG project > > - Hub is a proud supporter of open-source software development and offers > a large choice of web hosting applications > > In case you're unfamiliar with what a Virtual Private Server might be: > > - A VPS is like a *private server* (i.e. you get full root access), but > much cheaper and without the hardware hassles; > > - It's much more secure than a shared hosting account: user files are in a > completely air-tight environment; > > I like to think of hub.org as special in the way we view our business. > > Specifically, most of our users are not interested in the technicalities of > their hosting accounts at all. On the contrary, they just need their site to > be up and running. > > If you've similar expectations, be sure to visit http://hub.org to see what > we can offer you. > > In case you're wondering if a VPS is right for you, consider our limited > offer: > > We're distributing 10 free Starter VPS accounts, on the first of each month, > on a first come first served basis. It runs just like any other Starter > account, you just don't have to pay for the *First Year* of service on it -- > you're still responsible for any form of over-usage however. > > To get yours, browse http://hub.org at 0:00 AST (that's 23:00 EST) on the > 1st of the month, sign up for an *Annual Starter Package* and enter > "FreeHosting" in the Coupon Field. > > If you need any further information, you're more than welcome to get in > touch: > > Marc Fournier / CEO > sales at hub.org > http://hub.org > > PS: In the event you decide to spread the word, don't miss our affiliate > program: http://affiliates.hub.org/affiliates/signup.php > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > -To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to: > > pgsql-announce-unsubscribe@postgresql.org > -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Why was this approved for posting to -announce? AFAIK, we normally > refer hosters to the list on the website, no? We hav ea section on the web site to post announcements of specials? > > //Magnus > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 06:25, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: >> >> NOTE: A minor changes have been made to the original offer ... >> >> 1. there are an equi-number of free *quarterly* VPSs also available, >> so if you don't make it in time for the Annual, you can still sign >> up for the quarterly. >> >> ==== >> >> Hello fellow open-source users and developers, >> >> My name is Marc Fournier, and I'd like to highlight Hub.org's monthly VPS >> giveaway. In case you've never heard of hub.org: >> >> - Hub.org is small, customer-oriented host which I founded during the >> mid-1990s, in order to host the PG project >> >> - Hub is a proud supporter of open-source software development and offers >> a large choice of web hosting applications >> >> In case you're unfamiliar with what a Virtual Private Server might be: >> >> - A VPS is like a *private server* (i.e. you get full root access), but >> much cheaper and without the hardware hassles; >> >> - It's much more secure than a shared hosting account: user files are in a >> completely air-tight environment; >> >> I like to think of hub.org as special in the way we view our business. >> >> Specifically, most of our users are not interested in the technicalities of >> their hosting accounts at all. On the contrary, they just need their site to >> be up and running. >> >> If you've similar expectations, be sure to visit http://hub.org to see what >> we can offer you. >> >> In case you're wondering if a VPS is right for you, consider our limited >> offer: >> >> We're distributing 10 free Starter VPS accounts, on the first of each month, >> on a first come first served basis. It runs just like any other Starter >> account, you just don't have to pay for the *First Year* of service on it -- >> you're still responsible for any form of over-usage however. >> >> To get yours, browse http://hub.org at 0:00 AST (that's 23:00 EST) on the >> 1st of the month, sign up for an *Annual Starter Package* and enter >> "FreeHosting" in the Coupon Field. >> >> If you need any further information, you're more than welcome to get in >> touch: >> >> Marc Fournier / CEO >> sales at hub.org >> http://hub.org >> >> PS: In the event you decide to spread the word, don't miss our affiliate >> program: http://affiliates.hub.org/affiliates/signup.php >> >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. >> scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org >> >> Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org >> >> >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> -To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to: >> >> pgsql-announce-unsubscribe@postgresql.org >> > > > > -- > Magnus Hagander > Me: http://www.hagander.net/ > Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 16:13, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> Why was this approved for posting to -announce? AFAIK, we normally >> refer hosters to the list on the website, no? > > We hav ea section on the web site to post announcements of specials? No, but we have a section for posting hosting sites. Said hosting sites are expected to use their own channels for specials. -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 16:13, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> >>> Why was this approved for posting to -announce? AFAIK, we normally >>> refer hosters to the list on the website, no? >> >> We hav ea section on the web site to post announcements of specials? > > No, but we have a section for posting hosting sites. Said hosting > sites are expected to use their own channels for specials. And the policy against this was discussed when, and posted where? In fact, looking at our web site, there actually is *no* policy about what can / cannot be posted to -announce (and I know we had / have one floating around) ... there should be something a bit more prominent / public posted ... But, neither here nor there, the policy, as I recall it, concerns two things: frequency of posting (once a month *is* acceptable) and content (has to pertain to PostgreSQL services *or* products) I'm adhering to *both* ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 16:34, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 16:13, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: >>> >>>> Why was this approved for posting to -announce? AFAIK, we normally >>>> refer hosters to the list on the website, no? >>> >>> We hav ea section on the web site to post announcements of specials? >> >> No, but we have a section for posting hosting sites. Said hosting >> sites are expected to use their own channels for specials. > > And the policy against this was discussed when, and posted where? In fact, > looking at our web site, there actually is *no* policy about what can / > cannot be posted to -announce (and I know we had / have one floating around) > ... there should be something a bit more prominent / public posted ... I though tit was the same one as for news on the website, which specifically has: " Other types of announcements, including minor releases, pricing changes, leadership changes, 3rd-party news coverage, partnerships, and mergers & acquisitions will be rejected. " -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > I though tit was the same one as for news on the website, which > specifically has: > " Other types of announcements, including minor releases, pricing > changes, leadership changes, 3rd-party news coverage, partnerships, and > mergers & acquisitions will be rejected. " 'k, mind falls under none of the above ... but, what exactly is '3rd party news coverage'? And although I can see avoiding minor release announcments on the web page, I can't see why we'd restrict that on -announce except if its, like, a 'new release per week' kind of thing ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> I though tit was the same one as for news on the website, which >> specifically has: > >> " Other types of announcements, including minor releases, pricing >> changes, leadership changes, 3rd-party news coverage, partnerships, >> and mergers & acquisitions will be rejected. " > > 'k, mind falls under none of the above ... but, what exactly is '3rd > party news coverage'? And although I can see avoiding minor release > announcments on the web page, I can't see why we'd restrict that on > -announce except if its, like, a 'new release per week' kind of thing ... fwiw - the full policy document is on: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NewsEventsApproval Also the description for the mailinglist says "Announcement list pertaining to PostgreSQL and various third party software." I don't think posting hosting offers like that are a good use (or even appropriate) of the list, if we start distributing only very tangentially to the core project related stuff like that on our lists and the website we will soon end up in a situation where everyone wants to use us as a marketing instrument just by mentioning PostgreSQL somewhere in the announcement. Stefan
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 17:08, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> I though tit was the same one as for news on the website, which >> specifically has: > >> " Other types of announcements, including minor releases, pricing changes, >> leadership changes, 3rd-party news coverage, partnerships, and mergers & >> acquisitions will be rejected. " > > 'k, mind falls under none of the above ... but, what exactly is '3rd party > news coverage'? And although I can see avoiding minor release announcments > on the web page, I can't see why we'd restrict that on -announce except if > its, like, a 'new release per week' kind of thing ... The announce mailinglist gets delivered directly into the mailboxes of tens of thousands of people. If anything that should be a lot *more* restrictive than postings to the web. Personally, I'd like to see -announce for *project news only*, and have all third party stuff go on the website. -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Personally, I'd like to see -announce for *project news only*, and > have all third party stuff go on the website. Sounds reasonable, but this has to be explicitly posted somewhere ... for starters, the 'your message is awaiting moderator approval' should be changed so that ppl know that their announcements *aren't* going to go out, but that they should go to the web site ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > > >Personally, I'd like to see -announce for *project news only*, and > >have all third party stuff go on the website. > > Sounds reasonable, but this has to be explicitly posted somewhere > ... for starters, the 'your message is awaiting moderator approval' > should be changed so that ppl know that their announcements *aren't* > going to go out, but that they should go to the web site ... Do you know how to make Majordomo act that way? -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.
Will have to re-research this, but we did do it for the 'info' file sent out for pgsql-hackers ... it may only be a small list of files that can be modified as such though, am not 100% certain ... On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> >>> Personally, I'd like to see -announce for *project news only*, and >>> have all third party stuff go on the website. >> >> Sounds reasonable, but this has to be explicitly posted somewhere >> ... for starters, the 'your message is awaiting moderator approval' >> should be changed so that ppl know that their announcements *aren't* >> going to go out, but that they should go to the web site ... > > Do you know how to make Majordomo act that way? > > -- > Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ > The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org
Whilst I agree that the message in this case was not appropriate, I strongly disagree with 'project news only'. I think at minimum it should be 'postgresql family news only'. On 1/1/10, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> Personally, I'd like to see -announce for *project news only*, and >> have all third party stuff go on the website. > > Sounds reasonable, but this has to be explicitly posted somewhere ... for > starters, the 'your message is awaiting moderator approval' should be > changed so that ppl know that their announcements *aren't* going to go > out, but that they should go to the web site ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. > scrappy@hub.org http://www.hub.org > > Yahoo:yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ:7615664 MSN:scrappy@hub.org > > -- > Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www > -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 19:35, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote: > Whilst I agree that the message in this case was not appropriate, I > strongly disagree with 'project news only'. I think at minimum it > should be 'postgresql family news only'. Agreed. That's actually what I meant, just didn't state it very clearly :-) -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/