Обсуждение: Licensing
Hello Everyone. I have a question about licensing with PostgeSQL.
I work for a small company and we design websites for customers of ours. I read the license that is listed here.
However, I am still confused.
The small company I work for develops websites and applications on AWS EC2 instances for our customers and we charge the customers a fee for hosting and for maintaining their websites.
I am trying to figure out which dbase software I can use and if I need to buy licenses or not.
We do not modify the PostgreSQL code and we do not redistribute the binaries. So far we are just running on a single instance for each of our customers, but we are not utilizing anything like a cluster or high availability CDN, other than what AWS EC2 provides. We always utilize Wordpress and Drupal for site front-end.
Can someone tell me if I am able to use PostgreSQL for the small company I work for? Is there a way to by a commercial license of PostgreSQL if we are required too?
Thanks
Bryan Boone wrote on 8/18/21 11:39 AM:
Yes, you are.
Can someone tell me if I am able to use PostgreSQL for the small company I work for?
Yes, you are.
On 8/18/21 11:39 AM, Bryan Boone wrote: > Hello Everyone. I have a question about licensing with PostgeSQL. > > I work for a small company and we design websites for customers of ours. > I read the license that is listed here. > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/ > > However, I am still confused. I would think: "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written agreement is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies. " pretty much covers it, no fee, no written agreement is needed. > Thanks -- Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
For a six-pack of Sam Adams Boston Lager or Molson Canadian Lager per website, I hereby grant thee the right to use PostgreSQL with any customer, to your heart's content. Please note that I don't accept Budweiser or Miller products. On 8/18/21 2:39 PM, Bryan Boone wrote: > Hello Everyone. I have a question about licensing with PostgeSQL. > > I work for a small company and we design websites for customers of > ours. I read the license that is listed here. > > https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/ > <https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/> > > However, I am still confused. > > The small company I work for develops websites and applications on AWS > EC2 instances for our customers and we charge the customers a fee for > hosting and for maintaining their websites. > > I am trying to figure out which dbase software I can use and if I need > to buy licenses or not. > > We do not modify the PostgreSQL code and we do not redistribute the > binaries. So far we are just running on a single instance for each of > our customers, but we are not utilizing anything like a cluster or > high availability CDN, other than what AWS EC2 provides. We always > utilize Wordpress and Drupal for site front-end. > > Can someone tell me if I am able to use PostgreSQL for the small > company I work for? Is there a way to by a commercial license of > PostgreSQL if we are required too? > > Thanks -- Mladen Gogala Database Consultant Tel: (347) 321-1217 https://dbwhisperer.wordpress.com
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:13:51PM -0400, Mladen Gogala wrote: > For a six-pack of Sam Adams Boston Lager or Molson Canadian Lager per > website, I hereby grant thee the right to use PostgreSQL with any customer, > to your heart's content. Please note that I don't accept Budweiser or Miller > products. I am a root beer guy! And of course, the beer/root beer angle is just a joke, Many companies use Postgres for many purposes, resell, modify, etc, with no payment or requirements. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
Ah okay thank you. I think what was confusing me was the “without fee”. I wasn’t sure if that meant we could distribute it, but only if we did not charge a fee for it. But I guess that means thatPostgreSQL will not charge a fee to us to distribute it. Thanks > On Aug 18, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote: > > On 8/18/21 11:39 AM, Bryan Boone wrote: >> Hello Everyone. I have a question about licensing with PostgeSQL. >> I work for a small company and we design websites for customers of ours. I read the license that is listed here. >> https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/ However, I am still confused. > > I would think: > > "Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose, without fee, andwithout a written agreement is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph and the followingtwo paragraphs appear in all copies. " > > pretty much covers it, no fee, no written agreement is needed. > >> Thanks > > > -- > Adrian Klaver > adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:47:26PM -0700, Bryan Boone wrote:
> Ah okay thank you. I think what was confusing me was the “without fee”.
>
> I wasn’t sure if that meant we could distribute it, but only if we did not charge a fee for it. But I guess that
meansthat PostgreSQL will not charge a fee to us to distribute it.
You are not the first person to be confused by this; see this email
thread from 2003:
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/a3c9d941f0a3761cc68adad1b43347b0@biglumber.com
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 AM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:47:26PM -0700, Bryan Boone wrote: > > Ah okay thank you. I think what was confusing me was the “without fee”. > > > > I wasn’t sure if that meant we could distribute it, but only if we did not charge a fee for it. But I guess that meansthat PostgreSQL will not charge a fee to us to distribute it. > > You are not the first person to be confused by this; see this email > thread from 2003: Maybe we need to come up with a more explaining paragraph and add it to https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/ -- similar to how we explain that we're not going to change license... Like a "what does this mean" section or something.. -- Magnus Hagander Me: https://www.hagander.net/ Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:07:52PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:34 AM Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:47:26PM -0700, Bryan Boone wrote: > > > Ah okay thank you. I think what was confusing me was the “without fee”. > > > > > > I wasn’t sure if that meant we could distribute it, but only if we did not charge a fee for it. But I guess that meansthat PostgreSQL will not charge a fee to us to distribute it. > > > > You are not the first person to be confused by this; see this email > > thread from 2003: > > Maybe we need to come up with a more explaining paragraph and add it > to https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/ -- similar to how we > explain that we're not going to change license... Like a "what does > this mean" section or something.. Agreed, there is no problem in adding an explanation. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com If only the physical world exists, free will is an illusion.