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about help message for new pg_dump's --filter option

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Kyotaro Horiguchi
Дата:
Hello.

Recently, a new --filter option was added to pg_dump. I might be
wrong, but the syntax of the help message for this feels off. Is the
word 'on' not necessary after 'based'?

>  --filter=FILENAME            include or exclude objects and data from dump
>                               based expressions in FILENAME

regards.

-- 
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center



Re: about help message for new pg_dump's --filter option

От
Kyotaro Horiguchi
Дата:
At Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:20:40 +0900 (JST), Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> wrote in 
> Hello.
> 
> Recently, a new --filter option was added to pg_dump. I might be
> wrong, but the syntax of the help message for this feels off. Is the
> word 'on' not necessary after 'based'?
> 
> >  --filter=FILENAME            include or exclude objects and data from dump
> >                               based expressions in FILENAME

Hmm. A similar message is spelled as "based on expression". Thus, the
attached correct this message in this line.

regards.

-- 
Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center

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Re: about help message for new pg_dump's --filter option

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Daniel Gustafsson
Дата:
> On 30 Nov 2023, at 02:52, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:20:40 +0900 (JST), Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> wrote in
>> Hello.
>>
>> Recently, a new --filter option was added to pg_dump. I might be
>> wrong, but the syntax of the help message for this feels off. Is the
>> word 'on' not necessary after 'based'?
>>
>>> --filter=FILENAME            include or exclude objects and data from dump
>>>                              based expressions in FILENAME
>
> Hmm. A similar message is spelled as "based on expression". Thus, the
> attached correct this message in this line.

Right, that's an unfortunate miss, it should've been "based on expression" like
you propose.  Fixed.

--
Daniel Gustafsson




Re: about help message for new pg_dump's --filter option

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Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
On 2023-Nov-30, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> Recently, a new --filter option was added to pg_dump. I might be
> wrong, but the syntax of the help message for this feels off. Is the
> word 'on' not necessary after 'based'?
> 
> >  --filter=FILENAME            include or exclude objects and data from dump
> >                               based expressions in FILENAME

Isn't this a bit too long?  Maybe we can do something shorter, like
      
  --filter=FILENAME            determine objects in dump based on FILENAME

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Re: about help message for new pg_dump's --filter option

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Daniel Gustafsson
Дата:
> On 2 Dec 2023, at 17:02, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
>
> On 2023-Nov-30, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Recently, a new --filter option was added to pg_dump. I might be
>> wrong, but the syntax of the help message for this feels off. Is the
>> word 'on' not necessary after 'based'?
>>
>>> --filter=FILENAME            include or exclude objects and data from dump
>>>                              based expressions in FILENAME
>
> Isn't this a bit too long?

I was trying to come up with a shorter description but didn't come up with one
that clearly enough described what it does.

>  Maybe we can do something shorter, like
>
>  --filter=FILENAME            determine objects in dump based on FILENAME

I don't think that's an improvement really, it's not obvious what "determine
objects" means.  How about a variation along these lines?:

--filter=FILENAME            include/exclude objects based on rules in FILENAME

If we want to use less horizontal space we can replace FILENAME with FILE,
though I'd prefer not to since FILENAME is already used in the help output for
--file setting a precedent.

--
Daniel Gustafsson