> On Aug 22, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I kinda wonder if the postgres community shouldn't do something about
> http://www.postgresql-archive.org/. The name makes it sound somewhat
> official, but it doesn't appear to be. At least I do not know who runs
> it. Does somebody else?
There are lots of domains that contain "postgresql", most of which
contain postgresql-related content and which aren't operated by
PGDG.
>
> Given the, presumed, unofficial nature I'm not really ok with them
> serving ads while benefiting from an official sounding name.
>
> But even without that issue, I think there's two reasonable concerns:
> For one, we do not know how reliable the operator is. They could be
> manipulating e.g. attachements to contain maliscious contents. The
> second, and more likely, issue is that it's likely that the offering
> will cease to exist and the links in our archive will point into the
> void.
There are two entities involved. The archiving is being done by nabble.com,
which is what they do. They do it quite well, though I find their advertising
overly aggressive and crappy, even for an advertising backed service.
And there's the person who requested Nabble archive our lists and
pointed postgresql-archive.org at it. (They may be one and the same,
but it really doesn't matter).
Neither of them is doing anything wrong. They're, between them, providing
a service we don't.
If "we" wanted them to stop archiving "our" lists then I'm sure nabble would
stop if asked (or the nabble bot could be unsubscribed). The main thing
that would do would be to remove a service some people find useful.
Making our archives more useful so that nabble provides no added value
does seem like a more productive first step.
Cheers,
Steve