Обсуждение: [whine] Slow moderation on postgres lists
I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people
moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time
to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the
two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe
recruit a few more moderators?
regards, tom lane
Hi, On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 01:17 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Maybe recruit a few more moderators? I have already volunteered for that. Just a reminder. Regards, -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, ODBCng - http://www.commandprompt.com/
> I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe > recruit a few more moderators? I also think we have different sets of moderators for different lists, because some seen to have better response times. ButI could be mistaken on that since I've made no actual check on that ;) I've asked for a list of who moderates what to be documented somewhere, but nothingyet. That would be a good starting point to see if we need more moderators. I've also had a commit message moderated because it contained the c word that is in c-handler. Apart from having that approved,I think that specific check is stupid and should be removed. If possible, all checks on commit messages should be excluded. /Magnus
"Magnus Hagander" <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
> I've also had a commit message moderated because it contained the c word that is in c-handler. Apart from having that
approved,I think that specific check is
> stupid and should be removed. If possible, all checks on commit messages should be excluded.
Yeah, some closer attention to the filter patterns would be good too.
One of the things that got me ticked off today was having several
messages blocked because they contained "cansel" (deliberately
misspeeled here to avoid triggering that filter again), in the middle of
the line several lines down. I can see the argument for filtering
messages that have that word as the *first* in the body, but not like
this. It's a perfectly useful and indeed fairly important word for
technical discussions. I've been bit similarly in the past by other
filters that seemed overly loose...
regards, tom lane
> > I've also had a commit message moderated because it contained the c word that is in c-handler. Apart from having thatapproved, I think that specific check is > > stupid and should be removed. If possible, all checks on commit messages should be excluded. > > Yeah, some closer attention to the filter patterns would be good too. > One of the things that got me ticked off today was having several > messages blocked because they contained "cansel" (deliberately > misspeeled here to avoid triggering that filter again), in the middle of That's the c word I was talking about, if that wasn't clear for everyone. /Magnus
Tom Lane wrote: > I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe > recruit a few more moderators? Which lists are slow? I tend to moderate in real time whilst I'm awake, or at least the next time I check my mail when not (which is invariably only a few hours away). I can probably add another couple to my list if that would help. Regards, Dave
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:43:06AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people > > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time > > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the > > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe > > recruit a few more moderators? > > Which lists are slow? I tend to moderate in real time whilst I'm awake, > or at least the next time I check my mail when not (which is invariably > only a few hours away). I can probably add another couple to my list if > that would help. In my case, -patches and -committers. Looking at the thread I *think* Tom was referring to, also -hackers. (I did bug you about -patches and -committers, which you said you couldn't do :-P) //Magnus
Dave Page wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people > > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time > > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the > > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe > > recruit a few more moderators? > > Which lists are slow? I tend to moderate in real time whilst I'm awake, > or at least the next time I check my mail when not (which is invariably > only a few hours away). I can probably add another couple to my list if > that would help. What do people use to moderate? Are there any scripts to help or something? I've seen people wasting time hitting reply, writing "accept", etc, which consumes a lot of time. (FWIW I do have a script, which currently only works for pgsql-es-ayuda but I think it could be easily generalized). -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 > I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe > recruit a few more moderators? Or allow the existing moderators to control more lists; for the ones that I moderate, I usually clear them out at least once a day. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200704110903 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFGHNymvJuQZxSWSsgRA56sAJ9j2viFavTW8c8hNHt/MktdxKmsywCeMCOg /cJZBstf6o3QDpEj6p6IXj8= =ckBL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> Tom Lane wrote: >>> I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people >>> moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time >>> to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the >>> two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe >>> recruit a few more moderators? >> Which lists are slow? I tend to moderate in real time whilst I'm awake, >> or at least the next time I check my mail when not (which is invariably >> only a few hours away). I can probably add another couple to my list if >> that would help. > > What do people use to moderate? Are there any scripts to help or > something? I've seen people wasting time hitting reply, writing > "accept", etc, which consumes a lot of time. That's what I do - it takes a couple of seconds each for the dozen or so approvals I do on 6 or so of our lists per day. Regards, Dave.
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:43:06AM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>> Which lists are slow?
> In my case, -patches and -committers. Looking at the thread I *think* Tom
> was referring to, also -hackers.
At the time I was particularly concerned about -hackers and -bugs, but
I'm not sure which lists have the issue overall. I regularly notice
batches of two-or-three-day-old messages being released together,
perhaps several times a week, and hadn't paid any particular attention
to which lists they were on. I file all the PG lists I read (which is
most of them) into one folder, so it all kinda blurs together ... but
I think -bugs is in need of more attention because it's particularly
likely to get submissions from non-subscribers.
regards, tom lane
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:26:22 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:43:06AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: >>> Which lists are slow? > >> In my case, -patches and -committers. Looking at the thread I *think* Tom >> was referring to, also -hackers. > > At the time I was particularly concerned about -hackers and -bugs, but > I'm not sure which lists have the issue overall. I regularly notice > batches of two-or-three-day-old messages being released together, > perhaps several times a week, and hadn't paid any particular attention > to which lists they were on. I file all the PG lists I read (which is > most of them) into one folder, so it all kinda blurs together ... but > I think -bugs is in need of more attention because it's particularly > likely to get submissions from non-subscribers. > > regards, tom lane > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGHP8n4QvfyHIvDvMRAjrLAKCK+cDhJ+HX31KQAdbLHjSYjtgK4QCfSDYm VNkW+JlXD2PcnVzocQh8A6A= =UB1c -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one spam > in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went? I got a mail from majordom saying it was held, but it was never passed through. (the one on committers came through around that time, so I assume you went through that one as well?) Also, to repeat that request, could you stick a list of who is moderator of what on pmt, for reference? //Magnus
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one spam > in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... I think the problem is that it shouldn't just be checked when somebody complains, but on a periodical basis. > - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:26:22 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> > wrote: > > > Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes: > >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:43:06AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > >>> Which lists are slow? > > > >> In my case, -patches and -committers. Looking at the thread I *think* Tom > >> was referring to, also -hackers. > > > > At the time I was particularly concerned about -hackers and -bugs, but > > I'm not sure which lists have the issue overall. I regularly notice > > batches of two-or-three-day-old messages being released together, > > perhaps several times a week, and hadn't paid any particular attention > > to which lists they were on. I file all the PG lists I read (which is > > most of them) into one folder, so it all kinda blurs together ... but > > I think -bugs is in need of more attention because it's particularly > > likely to get submissions from non-subscribers. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:10:15 -0400 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one >> spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... > > I think the problem is that it shouldn't just be checked when somebody > complains, but on a periodical basis. My point was that obviously someone has been checking, since there was only a couple in -hackers that were <24hr old, and -bugs had nothing but one spam ... > >> - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:26:22 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> >> wrote: >> >> > Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes: >> >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:43:06AM +0100, Dave Page wrote: >> >>> Which lists are slow? >> > >> >> In my case, -patches and -committers. Looking at the thread I *think* Tom >> >> was referring to, also -hackers. >> > >> > At the time I was particularly concerned about -hackers and -bugs, but >> > I'm not sure which lists have the issue overall. I regularly notice >> > batches of two-or-three-day-old messages being released together, >> > perhaps several times a week, and hadn't paid any particular attention >> > to which lists they were on. I file all the PG lists I read (which is >> > most of them) into one folder, so it all kinda blurs together ... but >> > I think -bugs is in need of more attention because it's particularly >> > likely to get submissions from non-subscribers. > > -- > Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ > PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGHRq14QvfyHIvDvMRAigqAJ9JW8gb1NhDUxFEdUDghR0lx2v6TwCfU9WA aWFCcUoDZ9glLmxbLP3sR+Y= =V5F3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one spam
>> in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ...
> Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went?
Also, there should have been at least one -hackers post from Maxime
Henrion of freebsd.org ...
regards, tom lane
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'll let you add it to pmt, but here is what we have right now, beyond myself: pgsql-announce:xzilla@users.sourceforge.netgreg@turnstep.com pgsql-performance:josh@agliodbs.com which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, also, but apparently not ... so, who wanted to volunteer for what again? email me offlist, but we currently have: pgsql-admin pgsql-advocacy pgsql-benchmarks pgsql-bugs pgsql-chat pgsql-committers pgsql-core pgsql-cygwin pgsql-docs pgsql-general pgsql-hackers pgsql-interfaces pgsql-jdbc pgsql-jobs pgsql-novice pgsql-odbc pgsql-patches pgsql-php pgsql-ports pgsql-sql Now, in some cases, the 'list owner' is different then me (ie. pgsql-advocacy is owned by JoshB), but even in that case, a backup moderator would be nice ... - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 18:09:51 +0200 Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one >> spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... > > Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went? I got a mail from > majordom saying it was held, but it was never passed through. (the one on > committers came through around that time, so I assume you went through that > one as well?) > > Also, to repeat that request, could you stick a list of who is moderator of > what on pmt, for reference? > > //Magnus - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGHR2R4QvfyHIvDvMRAkzwAJoCAa9CcREy71/gSv/yA4Rsfm9bawCgl8q2 NLPoB7wXbtR9D6+NYsOjqz4= =VBHt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 > which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, > also, but apparently not ... Alas, I toil in obscurity. I do announce, general, hackers, interfaces, and bugs very regularly. Based on the amount of messages that build up if I miss a day, I think I am really the only one actively moderating them (except announce), although it looks like someone has been helping out a bit lately, especially on hackers. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200704111422 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFGHSeVvJuQZxSWSsgRAyM3AJ9RLbeP7htzv4Dp5W+CphBGmohLJQCfWXHs Em7RSUKITwSJTAW6JOwypqg= =1h3q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I am willing to moderate any of these lists anyone wants me to moderate. I promise to do this every weekday at [insert daytime here, Eastern time], subject to vacations and local holidays. Will that help? A On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 02:40:33PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I'll let you add it to pmt, but here is what we have right now, beyond myself: > > pgsql-announce: > xzilla@users.sourceforge.net > greg@turnstep.com > > pgsql-performance: > josh@agliodbs.com > > which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, also, but > apparently not ... > > so, who wanted to volunteer for what again? email me offlist, but we currently > have: > > pgsql-admin > pgsql-advocacy > pgsql-benchmarks > pgsql-bugs > pgsql-chat > pgsql-committers > pgsql-core > pgsql-cygwin > pgsql-docs > pgsql-general > pgsql-hackers > pgsql-interfaces > pgsql-jdbc > pgsql-jobs > pgsql-novice > pgsql-odbc > pgsql-patches > pgsql-php > pgsql-ports > pgsql-sql > > Now, in some cases, the 'list owner' is different then me (ie. pgsql-advocacy > is owned by JoshB), but even in that case, a backup moderator would be nice ... > > > - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 18:09:51 +0200 Magnus Hagander > <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> > >> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one > >> spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... > > > > Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went? I got a mail from > > majordom saying it was held, but it was never passed through. (the one on > > committers came through around that time, so I assume you went through that > > one as well?) > > > > Also, to repeat that request, could you stick a list of who is moderator of > > what on pmt, for reference? > > > > //Magnus > > > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGHR2R4QvfyHIvDvMRAkzwAJoCAa9CcREy71/gSv/yA4Rsfm9bawCgl8q2 > NLPoB7wXbtR9D6+NYsOjqz4= > =VBHt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: You can help support the PostgreSQL project by donating at > > http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca In the future this spectacle of the middle classes shocking the avant- garde will probably become the textbook definition of Postmodernism. --Brad Holland
'k, I'll add you in and send you details ... use ajs@crankycanuck.ca as address? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > I am willing to moderate any of these lists anyone wants me to > moderate. I promise to do this every weekday at [insert daytime > here, Eastern time], subject to vacations and local holidays. Will > that help? > > A > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 02:40:33PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> I'll let you add it to pmt, but here is what we have right now, beyond myself: >> >> pgsql-announce: >> xzilla@users.sourceforge.net >> greg@turnstep.com >> >> pgsql-performance: >> josh@agliodbs.com >> >> which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, also, but >> apparently not ... >> >> so, who wanted to volunteer for what again? email me offlist, but we currently >> have: >> >> pgsql-admin >> pgsql-advocacy >> pgsql-benchmarks >> pgsql-bugs >> pgsql-chat >> pgsql-committers >> pgsql-core >> pgsql-cygwin >> pgsql-docs >> pgsql-general >> pgsql-hackers >> pgsql-interfaces >> pgsql-jdbc >> pgsql-jobs >> pgsql-novice >> pgsql-odbc >> pgsql-patches >> pgsql-php >> pgsql-ports >> pgsql-sql >> >> Now, in some cases, the 'list owner' is different then me (ie. pgsql-advocacy >> is owned by JoshB), but even in that case, a backup moderator would be nice ... >> >> >> - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 18:09:51 +0200 Magnus Hagander >> <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>> >>>> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one >>>> spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... >>> >>> Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went? I got a mail from >>> majordom saying it was held, but it was never passed through. (the one on >>> committers came through around that time, so I assume you went through that >>> one as well?) >>> >>> Also, to repeat that request, could you stick a list of who is moderator of >>> what on pmt, for reference? >>> >>> //Magnus >> >> >> >> - ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) >> >> iD8DBQFGHR2R4QvfyHIvDvMRAkzwAJoCAa9CcREy71/gSv/yA4Rsfm9bawCgl8q2 >> NLPoB7wXbtR9D6+NYsOjqz4= >> =VBHt >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 7: You can help support the PostgreSQL project by donating at >> >> http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate > > -- > Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca > In the future this spectacle of the middle classes shocking the avant- > garde will probably become the textbook definition of Postmodernism. > --Brad Holland > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: You can help support the PostgreSQL project by donating at > > http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate >
Odd ... can you email me the passwd you have been using, and I'll set it up a bit better on this end so that I see you listed in the config file? I suspect you have the 'masterpasswd' for those lists, instead of having you setup as a seperate admin ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > >> which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, >> also, but apparently not ... > > Alas, I toil in obscurity. I do announce, general, hackers, interfaces, > and bugs very regularly. Based on the amount of messages that build up > if I miss a day, I think I am really the only one actively moderating > them (except announce), although it looks like someone has been helping > out a bit lately, especially on hackers. > > - -- > Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com > PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200704111422 > http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iD8DBQFGHSeVvJuQZxSWSsgRAyM3AJ9RLbeP7htzv4Dp5W+CphBGmohLJQCfWXHs > Em7RSUKITwSJTAW6JOwypqg= > =1h3q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings >
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:08:56PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > 'k, I'll add you in and send you details ... use ajs@crankycanuck.ca as > address? Sure. People should tell me what lists they want done and what time, too. A -- Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do sir? --attr. John Maynard Keynes
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Odd ... can you email me the passwd you have been using, and I'll set it > up a bit better on this end so that I see you listed in the config file? > I suspect you have the 'masterpasswd' for those lists, instead of > having you setup as a seperate admin ... Just to make sure - when you have this sorted, we'll get an updated list of moderators to stick on pmt, right? ;) //Magnus
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- --On Friday, April 13, 2007 21:53:32 +0200 Magnus Hagander
<magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Odd ... can you email me the passwd you have been using, and I'll set it
>> up a bit better on this end so that I see you listed in the config file?
>> I suspect you have the 'masterpasswd' for those lists, instead of
>> having you setup as a seperate admin ...
>
> Just to make sure - when you have this sorted, we'll get an updated list
> of moderators to stick on pmt, right? ;)
>
> //Magnus
>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I login to the web interface, as 'ALL' (so all lists are presented), then middle click on the posting itself so that it opens it in a new tab, and quickly go through an approve all the ones that need to be approved, skipping then ones that don't ... then i Use the 'select all' checkbox and 'reject-quiet' all the rest (minus the subscribe/unsubscribe requests, which just sit in the queue to expire or be accepted by the subscriber) ... I don't do anything via email ... much too slow / painful ... - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 09:03:40 -0400 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> wrote: > Dave Page wrote: >> Tom Lane wrote: >> > I thought we had things set up so that there were multiple people >> > moderating the postgres mail lists, but it seems like the average time >> > to approve postings from unsubscribed folk has slid back down to the >> > two-or-three-day range :-(. What can be done to improve that? Maybe >> > recruit a few more moderators? >> >> Which lists are slow? I tend to moderate in real time whilst I'm awake, >> or at least the next time I check my mail when not (which is invariably >> only a few hours away). I can probably add another couple to my list if >> that would help. > > What do people use to moderate? Are there any scripts to help or > something? I've seen people wasting time hitting reply, writing > "accept", etc, which consumes a lot of time. (FWIW I do have a script, > which currently only works for pgsql-es-ayuda but I think it could be > easily generalized). > > -- > Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ > PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGH+YX4QvfyHIvDvMRAhDqAKCeHthbrj8Xlv1DJpedw1i7tMVGcgCgwsh0 o9Cb6099ENeyqwG+mS5ivJY= =WtIU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I login to the web interface, as 'ALL' (so all lists are presented), then > middle click on the posting itself so that it opens it in a new tab, and > quickly go through an approve all the ones that need to be approved, skipping > then ones that don't ... then i Use the 'select all' checkbox and > 'reject-quiet' all the rest (minus the subscribe/unsubscribe requests, which > just sit in the queue to expire or be accepted by the subscriber) ... Ouch, I tried this in the past and found it really annoying. > I don't do anything via email ... much too slow / painful ... Yeah, I take exactly two seconds for each email. No browser, no nothing, just a single keypress for each moderation request. Way too slow. Now I understand why Greg talked about the need to "run the moderation on his own schedule". If you're gonna take fifteen minutes to do it, sure, you don't want to interrupt your normal email flow. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Andrew Sullivan is added to the following lists: > > pgsql-admin > pgsql-advocacy > pgsql-announce > pgsql-hackers > pgsql-jobs Ok. I've updated the pmt with what info we have had confirmed from Marc, which is right now: pgsql-admin Andrew Sullivan pgsql-advocacy Andrew Sullivan pgsql-announce Andrew Sullivan, Robert Treat, Greg Sabino Mullane pgsql-hackers Andrew Sullivan pgsql-jobs Andrew Sullivan pgsql-performance Josh Berkus Everything else moderated only by Marc. Marc, please update that once you have confirmed what/how Greg is doing other moderation, and other such things. //Magnus
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote: > Everything else moderated only by Marc. > I moderate pgsql-jdbc. Kris Jurka
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Saturday, April 14, 2007 09:35:04 -0400 Kris Jurka <books@ejurka.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote: > >> Everything else moderated only by Marc. >> > > I moderate pgsql-jdbc. Actually, you own pgsql-jdbc ... are you able to keep up okay on that, or do you want to add someone else to help out? - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGIOlR4QvfyHIvDvMRAqeCAJ0Qp3IGu+8GjmBFEmTRDfIm7EVUdQCgwFAe Wx2Bsfw1JnpdafjFzMUeNAY= =gUBL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Saturday 14 April 2007 08:40, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > Andrew Sullivan is added to the following lists:
> >
> > pgsql-admin
> > pgsql-advocacy
> > pgsql-announce
> > pgsql-hackers
> > pgsql-jobs
>
> Ok. I've updated the pmt with what info we have had confirmed from Marc,
> which is right now:
> pgsql-admin Andrew Sullivan
> pgsql-advocacy Andrew Sullivan
> pgsql-announce Andrew Sullivan, Robert Treat, Greg Sabino Mullane
> pgsql-hackers Andrew Sullivan
> pgsql-jobs Andrew Sullivan
> pgsql-performance Josh Berkus
>
ISTR being told I was set up to handle -announce, -jobs, and -advocacy,
and -press (iirc) at various times or another, but I've not been able to get
access for a few months now.... if people want me to work on those or others,
I probably need to get my credentials re-set and re-sent.
--
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Actually, you own pgsql-jdbc ... are you able to keep up okay on that, or do > you want to add someone else to help out? > I don't have any problems with moderating. I just thought we were assembling a master list so I figured I'd add it. Kris Jurka
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Granted, but you should be added as 'owner', not 'moderator' ... its a small distinction .. - --On Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:57:31 -0400 Kris Jurka <books@ejurka.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Actually, you own pgsql-jdbc ... are you able to keep up okay on that, or do >> you want to add someone else to help out? >> > > I don't have any problems with moderating. I just thought we were assembling > a master list so I figured I'd add it. > > Kris Jurka - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGIO4F4QvfyHIvDvMRAvvUAJsHOsUtX7yQSf2Cv1eCx6oRAHzbzgCgs5Kc rzDnRoY7mcEkQAnGPXU+h0Q= =3nyD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Granted, but you should be added as 'owner', not 'moderator' ... its a small > distinction .. Can you provide pmt with a list of lists that have owners other than yourself? //Magnus
Magnus Hagander wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>> Granted, but you should be added as 'owner', not 'moderator' ... its a small
>> distinction ..
>
> Can you provide pmt with a list of lists that have owners other than
> yourself?
Even better would be a *complete* contact list of people who have access
to what with the mailing lists.
>
> //Magnus
>
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> TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>
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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Magnus Hagander wrote: >> Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> Granted, but you should be added as 'owner', not 'moderator' ... its >>> a small distinction .. >> >> Can you provide pmt with a list of lists that have owners other than >> yourself? > > Even better would be a *complete* contact list of people who have access > to what with the mailing lists. That's what I'm trying for here, one piece at a time. //Magnus
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 'k, here are the list owners ... lists not listed default to me .. a few lists aren't active anymore, so trim accordingly: configset pgsql-advocacy owners <<ENDAAB josh@agliodbs.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-de-allgemein owners <<ENDAAB peter_e@gmx.net ENDAAB configset pgsql-es-ayuda owners <<ENDAAB "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> ENDAAB configset pgsql-fr-generale owners <<ENDAAB fsuter@cobweb.ch ENDAAB configset pgsql-hackers-win32 owners <<ENDAAB pgman@candle.pha.pa.us ENDAAB configset pgsql-jdbc owners <<ENDAAB books@ejurka.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-nl-algemeen owners <<ENDAAB pgdev@xs4all.nl ENDAAB configset pgsql-performance owners <<ENDAAB josh@agliodbs.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-ru-general owners <<ENDAAB mokhov@cs.concordia.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-slavestothewww owners <<ENDAAB dpage@postgresql.org ENDAAB configset pgsql-slony2 owners <<ENDAAB JanWieck@yahoo.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-students owners <<ENDAAB josh@agliodbs.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-techdocs owners <<ENDAAB Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> ENDAAB configset pgsql-tr-genel owners <<ENDAAB devrim@gunduz.org ENDAAB configset pgsql-www owners <<ENDAAB dpage@postgresql.org ENDAAB configset pgsql-www-advocacy owners <<ENDAAB pgman@candle.pha.pa.us ENDAAB configset pgsql-www-jobs owners <<ENDAAB lists@natserv.com ENDAAB - --On Saturday, April 14, 2007 17:41:11 +0200 Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> Magnus Hagander wrote: >>> Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>>> Granted, but you should be added as 'owner', not 'moderator' ... its >>>> a small distinction .. >>> >>> Can you provide pmt with a list of lists that have owners other than >>> yourself? >> >> Even better would be a *complete* contact list of people who have access >> to what with the mailing lists. > > That's what I'm trying for here, one piece at a time. > > //Magnus > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGIRqA4QvfyHIvDvMRAofwAKC2+2g74N3eqht7gZz8KyUz8I1bWQCfalzq WRsbEuJI0W5YpGVcW9Flhm8= =4S2n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... configset pgsql-admin passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | ajs@crankycanuck.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-advocacy passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | josh@agliodbs.com | ALL | ajs@crankycanuck.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-announce passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | xzilla@users.sourceforge.net | ALL | greg@turnstep.com ENDAAB configset pgsql-bugs passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | ajs@crankycanuck.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-hackers passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | ajs@crankycanuck.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-jobs passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | ajs@crankycanuck.ca ENDAAB configset pgsql-performance passwords <<ENDAAB | ALL | josh@agliodbs.com ENDAAB - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGIRtH4QvfyHIvDvMRAtTQAKDqv92D8tlzL7UUt0WHFFSHbgQSUgCeNv5Q oUEeX6+ro8hD+JcTsJnghtQ= =KlrL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Did you see this Marc? /D > ------- Original Message ------- > From: "Dave Page" <dpage@postgresql.org> > To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> > Sent: 11/04/07, 18:51:05 > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [whine] Slow moderation on postgres lists > > Feel free to add me for core, committers, patches, bugs and hackers. > > /D > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> > > To: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> > > Sent: 11/04/07, 18:40:33 > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] [whine] Slow moderation on postgres lists > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I'll let you add it to pmt, but here is what we have right now, beyond myself: > > > > pgsql-announce: > > xzilla@users.sourceforge.net > > greg@turnstep.com > > > > pgsql-performance: > > josh@agliodbs.com > > > > which is really odd, as I swore we had ppl for -general and -hackers, also, but > > apparently not ... > > > > so, who wanted to volunteer for what again? email me offlist, but we currently > > have: > > > > pgsql-admin > > pgsql-advocacy > > pgsql-benchmarks > > pgsql-bugs > > pgsql-chat > > pgsql-committers > > pgsql-core > > pgsql-cygwin > > pgsql-docs > > pgsql-general > > pgsql-hackers > > pgsql-interfaces > > pgsql-jdbc > > pgsql-jobs > > pgsql-novice > > pgsql-odbc > > pgsql-patches > > pgsql-php > > pgsql-ports > > pgsql-sql > > > > Now, in some cases, the 'list owner' is different then me (ie. pgsql-advocacy > > is owned by JoshB), but even in that case, a backup moderator would be nice ... > > > > > > - --On Wednesday, April 11, 2007 18:09:51 +0200 Magnus Hagander > > <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:30:47PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >> > > >> I checked both of those last night when you reported it ... there was one > > >> spam in -bugs and a few from Kris Kennedy in -hackers, but that was it ... > > > > > > Interesting. Any clue on where my post to -patches went? I got a mail from > > > majordom saying it was held, but it was never passed through. (the one on > > > committers came through around that time, so I assume you went through that > > > one as well?) > > > > > > Also, to repeat that request, could you stick a list of who is moderator of > > > what on pmt, for reference? > > > > > > //Magnus > > > > > > > > - ---- > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > > > iD8DBQFGHR2R4QvfyHIvDvMRAkzwAJoCAa9CcREy71/gSv/yA4Rsfm9bawCgl8q2 > > NLPoB7wXbtR9D6+NYsOjqz4= > > =VBHt > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 03:19:51PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this > isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... Ok. As I'm sure you've noticed I didn't update based on that, since it wasn't complete. Please update the PMT page when you have the complete list - and let us know when yuo've done it. //Magnus
On Saturday 14 April 2007 14:16, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 'k, here are the list owners ... lists not listed default to me .. a few
> lists aren't active anymore, so trim accordingly:
>
<snip>
Marc, I'm a little confused as I did not see myself set up as owner or
moderator of -press, but I can several press-owner type emails a day
delievered to me... is there some other association going on there?
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The list I sent you was 100% accurate based on the config files ... in some cases (ie. Greg), it looks like master passwd was provided, instead of setting up as an individual password ... its that that I have to work on fixing ... greg can still moderate as things are now, he's just not explicitly listed in the config files ... - --On Friday, April 20, 2007 13:06:40 +0200 Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 03:19:51PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this >> isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... > > Ok. As I'm sure you've noticed I didn't update based on that, since it > wasn't complete. Please update the PMT page when you have the complete list > - and let us know when yuo've done it. > > //Magnus > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://archives.postgresql.org - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGKQcj4QvfyHIvDvMRAnUBAKCbahziQgX0eByE15bpKj/u+fdwiACfTVzU NzP2+dLG7iACG6af3dAL9rA= =XzFN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
But you said (see quote below): >>> And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this >>> isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... So I wanted to wait until that work was done. Either way - whenever you're done, please write it down on the pmt page so it's up to date. (I'm sure it could do with some other details as well - you'll know what better than me) //Magnus Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > The list I sent you was 100% accurate based on the config files ... in some > cases (ie. Greg), it looks like master passwd was provided, instead of setting > up as an individual password ... its that that I have to work on fixing ... > greg can still moderate as things are now, he's just not explicitly listed in > the config files ... > > --On Friday, April 20, 2007 13:06:40 +0200 Magnus Hagander > <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 03:19:51PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this >>> isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... >> Ok. As I'm sure you've noticed I didn't update based on that, since it >> wasn't complete. Please update the PMT page when you have the complete list >> - and let us know when yuo've done it. > >> //Magnus > > >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? > >> http://archives.postgresql.org > > > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Magnus, can you update pmt? Dave is added to all of the below ... - --On Saturday, April 14, 2007 19:40:12 +0100 Dave Page <dpage@postgresql.org> wrote: >> Feel free to add me for core, committers, patches, bugs and hackers. >> >> /D - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGKQZ44QvfyHIvDvMRAuiBAJ9ulDqNkIOrVzUi7LMrLd/XCPKf9gCghF0e xZIQzm4atIuz0keLV5pOglQ= =M/1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > The list I sent you was 100% accurate based on the config files ... in some > cases (ie. Greg), it looks like master passwd was provided, instead of setting > up as an individual password ... its that that I have to work on fixing ... > greg can still moderate as things are now, he's just not explicitly listed in > the config files ... BTW did you add me as moderator for the lists I mentioned? -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The list I sent you was 100% accurate based on the config files ... in some > cases (ie. Greg), it looks like master passwd was provided, instead of setting > up as an individual password ... its that that I have to work on fixing ... > greg can still moderate as things are now, he's just not explicitly listed in > the config files ... I think what Magnus is trying to do is make sure that all admins are adhering to the same standards, which is, in this case to use pmt to document this type of stuff. Marc do you not have a log in to pmt? Is your account not working? Joshua D. Drake > > - --On Friday, April 20, 2007 13:06:40 +0200 Magnus Hagander > <magnus@hagander.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 03:19:51PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >>> And here is the current list of moderators, but, as Greg pointed out, this >>> isn't 100% accurate, but will be working on that this weekend ... >> Ok. As I'm sure you've noticed I didn't update based on that, since it >> wasn't complete. Please update the PMT page when you have the complete list >> - and let us know when yuo've done it. >> >> //Magnus >> >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? >> >> http://archives.postgresql.org > > > > - ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) > > iD8DBQFGKQcj4QvfyHIvDvMRAnUBAKCbahziQgX0eByE15bpKj/u+fdwiACfTVzU > NzP2+dLG7iACG6af3dAL9rA= > =XzFN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > The list I sent you was 100% accurate based on the config files ... in > some cases (ie. Greg), it looks like master passwd was provided, > instead of setting up as an individual password ... its that that I > have to work on fixing ... greg can still moderate as things are now, > he's just not explicitly listed in the config files ... > >> I think what Magnus is trying to do is make sure that all admins are >> adhering to the same standards, which is, in this case to use pmt to >> document this type of stuff. > That was indeed it, and I'm still missing this documentation on pmt. Can we get an update there, please? //Magnus